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Quote o' the Day: Don McCullin

"The trouble with photography is that it’s been hijacked by the art world. I’m a photographer. I’m very happy with the title. I’m not an artist."

—Don McCullin

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Manuel: "I disagree. He's an artist. His photography has solid composition principles and, like W. Eugene Smith, he is able to find beauty in the horrors of this world. Although a photojournalist, Don McCullin embeds an artistic language in his pictures. That, in my admittedly unqualified opinion, is enough to make him an artist.

"The first part of his quotation can be a bit more controversial. Was photography kidnapped by art, or was it adopted by art? I understand what Mr. McCullin means—some photographers, and lots of photojournalists among them, trade content for style much too often—but it's not such a bad thing for photography to be regarded as an art. If there wasn't an artistic element in it (a personal, original view on a given subject), photography would be rather prosaic and deeply uninteresting.

"But then again, Don McCullin was just being hyperbolic when he stated that. He is an artist. And he knows that."

David Elden: "Mr. McCullin appeared at a meet the 'artist' event at the National Gallery of Art here in Ottawa on the occasion of a large retrospective show of his life's work a couple of years back. He walked around the exhibit with a large crowd in attendance, was a mesmerising speaker, and made this same point about not being an artist quite forcefully."

Patrick Dodds: "'The majority of photographers still seek "artistic" effects, imitating other mediums of graphic expression. The result is a hybrid product that does not succeed in giving their work the most valuable characteristic it should have—photographic quality.' —Tina Modotti (via photoquotations.com, an excellent site that inspires and provokes in equal measure). I've certainly been guilty of the above, and still am from time to time."

toto (partial comment): "...There's enough photography to go around for everybody."

Gordon Lewis (partial comment): "In the end, they're all just labels. I am not my label and my label is not me."

Quote o' the Day: Anne Rice

"Don’t bend; don’t water it down; don’t try to make it logical; don’t edit your own soul according to the fashion. Rather, follow your most intense obsessions mercilessly."

—Author Anne Rice, talking about
what she learned from Franz Kafka

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Henry Rogers: "That works fine for an artist, writer photographer or whatever working on their own. A lot of worthwhile human activity depends on teamwork. The attitude expressed in the quote makes teamwork more difficult. I'm sure we all know people who have, by pursuing that idea to extremes, blighted their own lives, and obstructed the worthwhile efforts of others, by refusing to compromise. It isn't a matter of surrendering integrity to compromise when by doing so the team is enabled to work towards worthwhile results. On its own that quote provides an excuse, not an ideal to work towards."

Quote o' the Day: Gordon Cahill

"I'm a full-time photographer. That means I spend nearly 10% of my time taking photographs."

—Gordon Cahill

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[Gordon commented on the "Diversions" post. Truer words.... This is a big shock for a lot of people when they first innocently "turn pro." —Ed.]

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Quote o' the Day: Mike

"Making a picture that's technically what you want is where
photography begins, not where it ends."

—Mike J.

(People seem to like this quote from the other day, but I think I prefer this wording.)

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Paul Emberger: "I tell a variation of that truism to my students. And interestingly, I met Ralph Gibson yesterday: he was giving a lecture at the college where I currently teach. He told the crowd nearly the exact same thing. He spoke about how he came out of the Navy as a photojournalist with really good technical skill (I believe his wording may have been perfect or great skills) but that he hadn't yet really learned how to see. He also remarked about his time assisting Margaret Bourke-White. He said she had a phenomenal eye, but her skills were lacking. I recommend going to hear him talk if you ever have the chance."

Random Excellence / Quote o' the Day

Photo by Dave Jenkins

Triggered by my snapshot of the TransAmerica building the other day, Dave Jenkins sent me this photo of the same motif that he took 25 years ago with an Olympus OM-2 and Zuiko 85mm ƒ/2 lens.

Dave writes, "I found what I think is the perfect summary to all the talk about clichés a week or so ago. On the back cover of the February, 2000 issue of Popular Photography is an ad for Minolta light meters. It shows a photo of Elliott Erwitt holding a large, framed print of one of his best-known photographs. In the caption, he is saying 'To me, photography is an art of observation...I've found it has little to do with the things you see and everything to do with the way you see them.'"

I managed to find the ad:

This is the quote I felt related to Ctein's two photos, the one of the plane wing and the one of the leaf.

Another relevant quote is probably mine, something Ctein says I told him 20 years ago: "We should never be so insecure as to avoid cliché at every turn."

Ezra Pound said "make it new"; I say "make it yours." Half the battle.

Mike

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Quote o' the Day: Jim Richardson

“Might I vote for a new camera category: the Interchangeable Software Camera. The ISC. From a fair bit of experience with an iPhone (and a few decades with SLRs) I've come to the conclusion that camera makers have seriously underrated the value of interchangeable software. Apps give you all sorts of creative possibilities. Apps are fun. Given the choice of spending $1,000 on a new lens that might improve your pictures or spending $15 on five new apps that you can go out and play with tomorrow, I think lots of photographers are figuring out where the fun is.

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Jim Richardson

Our friend Jim Richardson, a Kansan, has photographed more than 30 stories for National Geographic magazine and is a Contributing Editor of NG's sister publication Traveler magazine.

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Quote o' the Day: Duane Michals

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“Don’t try to be an artist. Find the thing within you that needs to be expressed. You might find it is art.”

—Duane Michals

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Mike
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Kenneth Tanaka: "Good quote! I met Duane Michals about 10 years ago. He impressed me as a very lovely, very animated, and very opinionated fellow. I can easily envision him saying this to someone. Of course there is one catch to this directive: what if you discover you've nothing to express?"

Mike replies: There must be worse fates than not being an artist.  :-)

Quote o' the Day: Jeremy Clarkson

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"First rule of being a bloke: more buttons
equals better."

—J.C., from here

Made me laugh. Ya wish it weren't so. I still think there's a market out there for at least a few models of "alternative" simple cameras. There's currently only one simple camera on the market: this one. Wish I worked for a camera company—I could "design" (i.e., specify, or create the concept for) a great one. Not for nothing have I been working for amateur, hobbyist, family, enthusiast, and students photographers since 1984. (You know what they say: Oh well.)

Mike

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Bruce: "I think this is one reason why a lot of photographers don’t think much of iPhone cameras. They can’t be any good because they don’t have enough buttons! My Fuji X30 point and shoot has buttons that exist because of ancestor worship. The front of the camera has a fake lens release button on the right, a fake aperture control ring, and a fake little flappy button on the lower left which did something on film SLR cameras, but I don’t remember what. I do like the real zoom control ring though, that’s nice. However, sometimes I reach for the zoom ring and get the other ring by accident. I think having multiple rings is becoming like having multiple blades in razors. I predict we will see a point and shoot camera with four control rings around the lens before too long!"

Quote o' the Day: Ursula K. Le Guin

"Right now, I think we need writers who know the difference between the production of a market commodity and the practice of an art. Developing written material to suit sales strategies in order to maximize corporate profit and advertising revenue is not quite the same thing as responsible book publishing or authorship. (Thank you, brave applauders.)"

—Author Ursula K. Le Guin at the National Book Awards last night

Mike
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David Dyer-Bennet: "The important parts of writing aren't business-oriented, and the skillset of writing to a perceived target, and writing from the heart, are very different, anyway. Publishing needs enough business orientation to stay in business, but very little of the work that means the most to me would get published if they were 'perfect' at the business side."

Steve Rosenblum: "If you are a reader of fiction who has never been a science fiction or fantasy buff, I highly recommend that you cross over and give Ms. LeGuin's The Left Hand of Darkness or The Lathe of Heaven a try. She is a superb writer and, like many great fiction writers, regardless of the setting her subject is the human condition. Splendid books."

karamanoğlu: "For anyone interested, Ms. LeGuin's acceptance speech may be seen here. I'm a little surprised the link hasn't already been posted. [It wasn't available yet when this post first went up. —Ed.] For a related but slightly different take on the general topic of paying writers for their work, here's Harlan Ellison's classic rant (NSFW language). [And don't forget this—the result when we posted that link in 2010. —Ed.]

Sartorial Quote o' the Day: David Vestal

I'd be grateful for any help finding an actual quote—I think he said it on a number of occasions—but speaking of photographers' sartorial styles, the late David Vestal of venerated memory once said, and unfortunately I'm paraphrasing,

"I put on my camera in the morning and take it off at night, just like my shirt."

Incidentally, David had two Leica M2's that he shot with for many years, both of which seemed to go wonky on him at the same time. So, not caring a whit for camera-status, he got himself a pair of budget Olympus SLRs and proceeded to use those. But within a decade both of those had gone south on him and couldn't be cost-efficiently repaired. At that time, several of us—I don't know if I was the only one—convinced him that he should just get his old M2's repaired. He did, and they worked for him for the remainder of his life. I believe they were auctioned on eBay after his demise.

I was sorely tempted to acquire one as a photohistorical relic, but David would never have approved of that kind of sentimentality. (I once owned Jack Lemmon's Leica M6—sold it to Arthur Elkon—and I once had a chance to buy Lee Friedlander's Focotar. But I'm not a real collector, even of wonderful relics.)

Mike

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Quote o' the Day: Jeffrey Ladd

"A photograph should be more interesting than the subject and transcend its obviousness."

—Jeffrey Ladd
[Quoted on Conscientious, found by Stan Banos]

 

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Len Salem: "For some time now I've had typed out and stuck on my wall this quote by Gary Winogrand '…A photograph must be more interesting than the thing photographed.' (I've seen this quote elsewhere in various slightly different wordings so maybe he repeated himself, variously.)"

Mike replies: The great example of this that I can think of off the top of my head is Edward Weston, who made art out of a ceramic toilet ("Excusado") and a bell pepper ("Pepper No. 30") as well as a great many other mundane subjects. Doing an image search of "Edward Weston" is almost an object lesson in photographs that are more interesting than the thing photographed.

Quote of the Day: Maya Angelou

©Wake Forest University/Ken Bennett

Maya Angelou, 1928–2014
Photograph by TOP reader Ken Bennett, used with permission

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"If you are always trying to be normal, you will never know how amazing you can be."

—Poet and author Maya Angelou, who died this morning at the age of 86 at her home in Winston-Salem, North Carolina

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Only one of Ms. Angelou's many accomplishments is I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings, the breakout book that made her lastingly famous. It is the first volume of a six-volume autobiography of the first forty years of her life and one of the great coming-of-age books written in English. Caged Bird recounts her life up to age 17. It is not for the faint of heart. The New York Times said this morning, "hallmarks of Ms. Angelou’s prose style included a directness of voice that recalls African-American oral tradition and gives her work the quality of testimony. She was also intimately concerned with sensation, describing the world around her...with palpable feeling for its sights, sounds and smells." 

I hope it is not disrespectful to torque this short post around to more direct relevance to us by noting that the above quote is very apropos for photographers. I always use the word "generic" to express what she means by "normal." But to be as non-normal as possible, in the way that is closest and dearest and most sensible to each of us specifically, is really the best way to aim at being "amazing" as a photographer.

Here are 18 more great Maya Angelou quotes for inspiration and reflection.

Mike

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Ken Bennett: "Maya Angelou was a professor at the university where I work, and so I was able to watch and photograph her many times over the years. She had an amazing presence and power. It's a very sad day here."

'Snapping Their Surroundings'

...There remains a sizeable part of the art world that simply does not get photography. They get artists who use photography to illustrate their ideas, installations, performances and concepts, who 'deploy' the medium as one of a range of artistic strategies to complete their work. But photography for and of itself—photographs taken from the world as it is—are misunderstood as a collection of random observations and lucky moments, or muddled up with photojournalism, or tarred with a semi-derogatory 'documentary' tag.

This is tremendously sad, for if we look back, the simple truth is that the majority of the great photographic works of art in the 20th century operate in precisely this territory: from Walker Evans to Robert Frank, Diane Arbus to Garry Winogrand, from Stephen Shore traveling across America in Uncommon Places; Robert Adams navigating the freshly minted suburbs of Denver in The New West, or William Eggleston spiraling towards Jimmy Carter’s hometown in Election Eve, nobody would seriously propose that these sincere photographic artists were merely "snapping their surroundings."

—Paul Graham, "The Unreasonable Apple"

From a lovely little blog-post-sized essay in the Paul Graham Archive (which contains all of two short essays(!)). I'd love to republish the whole thing, but it's looking like it would be a challenge to get permission ("Contact via galleries only," admonishes Paul's Contact page). The paragraph just following the ones quoted is particularly good.

I've always wished certain photographers would write more. (But then I suppose they wouldn't be photographers, they'd be writers.)

Mike
(Thanks to Dave)

[ALERT: You might have problems with commenting today, off and on. Yes, TypePad is experiencing problems again. Sincere apologies for the aggravation. I will have a preliminary announcement about some planned changes soon. —Mike]

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Saturday Joke

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"There are two types of people in the world.
1. Those who can extrapolate from incomplete information."

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(G.K. Froehlich, quoting his daughter)

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darr: "An infinite number of mathematicians walk into a bar. The first one orders a beer. The second orders half a beer. The third, a quarter of a beer. The bartender says, 'You're all idiots,' and pours two beers."

Quote o' the Day: Gato

"Nobody expects my brother-in-law to make money from fishing. Nobody expects my neighbor to make money from golf. Nobody expects the guy down the street to make money from picking guitar. So how come so many people think it's strange that I don't care about making money from photography?"

—Gato

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McD: "Rest assured, your expectations will be met."

Gato: "WOW—I finally got my 15 minutes. Thanks, Mike."

Steve Jacob: "Good quote. My dad was a fanatical golfer with a scratch handicap throughout most of his youth. He was once asked why he never turned pro, and his response was also interesting: 'Now I play when I want to, compete with myself and make a lot of friends. If I have a bad round, only I am disappointed. To be a pro, I would have to play when I didn't want to, compete with my friends and create a lot of rivals. If I had a bad day, my sponsors, my family and all those depending on me would be disappointed. I would have to be crazy!' I feel much the same way about photography."

Dennis Fallon (partial comment): "I will say, though, that photographers have company. Woodworkers are often expected to make some side money with their hobby."

Quote o' the Day: Crabby Umbo

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"Micro 4/3 is better than 35mm used to be."

—Crabby Umbo

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ADDENDUM by Crabby Umbo: "...I should qualify that statement! It's still tough to get 'film look' in all digital, but I have to say that in terms of sharpness and 'blow-up-ability,' modern digital is better, and Micro 4/3 is easily the 'new' 35mm for photojournalists and those who always used the smaller formats, especially for ease of carry.

"I'm always amazed at how unsharp a lot of my 35mm stuff was in the olden days, and how most sharpness for small formats on a print was really the effect of the sharp grain rather than actual sharpness of the format. When the chromogenic B&W films first came out, I was amazed at how my small format stuff was not looking sharp, because there was no grain to be sharp on a print and give the effect of sharpness. Okay then...."

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robert: "These things are hard to compare. Full-frame is so much better than analog 35mm and had some designs on medium format, yet—if I make a 24" print from full-frame digital and medium format scanned film, I very much prefer the medium format film. If I make a 24" print from scanned 35mm film and an optical print from same, the optical falls apart.

"Traditional enlarging had limits that scanning doesn't with regard to holding the film flat in the enlarger. With scanning, that is solved. So you don't get those negs popping out of focus like you used to, and you can retain contest in a large print in a way what was hard optically. There is something about a large full-frame digital print that is thin to me; the colors are purer but less differentiated, and everything is sharp in a way that is unnatural to me. Regardless of sharpening. Scanned medium format is in many cases less sharp but has a depth that full-frame digital cannot match, and once you go above 11x17, is clearly better to my eyes. In reproduction, and online, and for colour accuracy, yes, full-frame digital. But it falls apart faster than you think."

Henry Richardson: "I have just finished the scanning of 10,000+ 35mm slides and negatives (color and B&W) that I have been doing little by little since the late 1990s. In the last 3–4 months I got really on it and scanned more than 6,700. If we are talking about scanned 35mm then I, in most cases, would say that even a tiny sensor digicam can do better. Not in all ways and not in all cases, but generally. Going analog the whole way, well, I will let others decide. I made rather detailed posts about this scanning experience in my last two blog entries (1/8 and 12/31) that I think some people will find interesting."

Dave in NM: "I've got a brick of Tri-X in freezer. Another one of these exchanges and I swear; I'm gonna be forced to load it up and shoot someone."

Quote o' the Day: Gloria Vanderbilt

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"Be kind, because everyone you meet is fighting a great battle."

—Gloria Vanderbilt, quoted by her son Anderson Cooper on Late Night with David Letterman, Nov. 19th, 2013

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Everyone's life is a struggle when seen from the inside, is what she's saying, I think. So we might as well be kind to one another, out of sympathy and acknowledgement of each person's struggles with his or her own difficulties.

A nice thought.

Mike

UPDATE: Quote Investigator notes that this is often attributed to Plato and sometimes Philo of Alexandria, i.e., to "generic ancient sage." But the quote probably traces back to Scottish author Ian MacLaren, who said "Be pitiful, for every man is fighting a hard battle"—"pitiful" used in the anachronistic sense of "compassionate, merciful, tender," and (ahem) "man" in the sense of "person."

"Ian MacLaren" was the pen name of Rev. John Watson, who, in 1903, writing under his own name, said, "This man beside us also has a hard fight with an unfavouring world, with strong temptations, with doubts and fears, with wounds of the past which have skinned over, but which smart when they are touched. It is a fact, however surprising. And when this occurs to us we are moved to deal kindly with him, to bid him be of good cheer, to let him understand that we are also fighting a battle; we are bound not to irritate him, nor press hardly upon him nor help his lower self."

(Thanks to Ade for this.)

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Geoff Wittig: "That is so painfully true. As a family doctor, on a daily basis I am astonished by the strength and fortitude of average folks, and by the surprising number of your friends and neighbors who are contending, with quiet dignity, with genuine tragedies in their lives. You just never know when a kind word will make all the difference in someone's week. Or when a casual dismissal or insensitive slight will heap insult on top of injury."

Quote o' the Day: Lloyd Chambers

Test results from resolution charts provide a narrow and often misleading snapshot of actual lens behavior.

The only reliable way to understand lens performance is by making real images in the field, and even then distance and subject matter can make significant differences. I recommend against making any lens choices based on test charts or MTF or other by-the-number silliness.

—Lloyd Chambers
 from "Understanding Field Curvature"

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This of course is selective self-reinforcement on my part, since I've been saying essentially the same thing for years. Still, I believe we're both right. And although I've never been able to find the reference, I could swear that I once read that a Leica lens designer (that would have been during the Leitz years—it was probably Mandler) once said that the only way to get to know a lens is to use it for a year and that everything else is a shortcut. Entertainingly, Lloyd goes on to note that when you're testing a lens with field curvature, you can, using small changes of focus, prove that a lens is better than itself. Made me laugh.

Don't subscribe to Diglloyd? It's like having access to a lavish technical library. It's expensive, but Lloyd is probably the best equipment reviewer on the planet.

(I was going to add something about quality not coming cheap, but then I remembered what I charge for TOP and figured maybe that's a road I'd better not go down. Makin' myself laugh again.)

Mike

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International Street Photographers Day

...Is today, H.C.-B.'s birthday.

The Loading, Main Market, Old Quarter, Hanoi, Viet Nam.
Photo by Francis Harrison.

Quote o' the Day:

Without [photographers], our society doesn't have a face. Because of this law, we run the risk of losing our memory. [...] Just to think that Cartier-Bresson or Josef Koudelka would have been prevented from doing their work is unbearable.

—Aurélie Filippetti, France’s new minister of culture, promising she would look into revoking France's notorious Article 9, which severely limits photographing individuals in public.

Quoted in Polka magazine (the word apparently means "hammer" in French), and repeated on the New York Times Lens Blog, where I found it thanks to reader "cb."

Mike
(Thanks to Francis and cb)

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Rob Smith: "Literally just picked up a Bessa R2, a Zeiss 35mm ƒ/2 lens, and some B&W film. Today is my first day of shooting film properly, can't wait to get developing and printing too. Bye bye digital, for at least a year. And thanks for the inspiration Mike, it's not a Leica but I'm still going to learn so much."

Quote o' the Day

You can emulate excellence, but you cannot emulate genius.

Mike

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