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The "best" mentality is a probably partially a symptom of living in a hyper-consumerism society.

Lately I’ve found that the best way to evaluate/choose a film/developer combination is to just look at photographs (albeit mostly online, which is not always completely reliable) and make a choice based on what pleases or appeals to you most.

Several years ago I became enchanted by the work of Steve Star who goes by “Stig of the Dump” on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/stig_ofthedump?igsh=MWs2cWswa3g3ZG41Yg==) and other social media sites. Steve lives in the Liverpool, UK area (surprise - he’s a big Beatles fan!) and took up photography somewhat late in life.

He mostly uses Ilford Delta films and processes in D23. No longer available from Kodak, Steve mixes his own. The results with the Delta films (as well as others from time to time) is magical to me.

Once I start shooting again (I need “good” weather to accomplish what I want) I’ll be experimenting with D23 and a few film stocks to develop my own recipe and approach.

The Tessar design f3.5 lens on my Rolleiflex Automat is plenty fast enough and I love the look it gives. I also recently acquired a Meopta Flexaret VII kit (with, I believe, ALL available accessories!) and once I have mastered my approach with the Rollei I’ll see how that miracle Czech technology and Meopta Tessar version works. I may end up shooting one camera with ISO 100 film and one with 400. To all the digital settings and infinite combinations - screw that!

Correct me if I'm wrong (it's been a while), but scanners do a great job reading thin (i.e. underexposed and/or underdeveloped) negatives and have a tough time with the opposite, so, at least for the hybrid process types, there's one more reason not to push film. You'll want to optimize for your specific materials and needs, of course ;)

. . . she looked thoughtful and said, "I have to have the best chair."

I have Lost Love, your print showing your woman gazing at waves breaking on a shore. I may be that way too. I used to do a lot of camping in National Forests; I could never come to rest until I had selected the best of all the available campsites. Same with motel rooms, or apartments. Chairs, not so much. I realize this is not normal, but it is a quirk I would not willingly give up.

The lens is the heart of the camera and every lens has a unique fingerprint. The ones that don't cost much are often the ones that take and make the nicest photos.

I am currently photographing with the Jupiter-9 (85mm/f2, circa 1958) - which is a copy of the Zeiss Biotar - and takes the most flattering of portraits and highlights glow at f2.8.

Agree with you about protuberances. They are for the birds.

Interesting post. Two things I want to mention. First, the discussion of the Dynaco Stereo 70 took me right back to 1974. I was a freshman electrical engineering student at UT Austin. I was on a very fixed budget but a big fan (at the time) of audio equipment and was also dating a concert cellist. I auditioned a bunch of pre-amp and amplifier combinations at various audio shops and couldn't scrounge up even a small percentage of the budget required for the amps I liked the sound of. I bought a Dynaco Stereo 120 amp kit, got out my soldering iron and got to work. The Stereo 120 was Dynaco's first transistor stereo amp and they had previously vowed not to abandon tube amps until they were able to to design a solid state amp that sounded as good or better. I believed that the 120 was that model. I paired it with a set of AR3a speakers and loved the combination. The 120 was the first amp I'd listened to that smoothed out the AR3as and made them highly listenable. It was the first amp I heard that handled 4 ohm speakers well. A wonderful memory. Even down to the Dual turntable, etc.
Thanks for that. Great memories of the time.

Now, a repeating bone to pick, in general, about the perception of film photographers from the past mostly desiring ways to make their black and white films and color films attain decent performance at higher ASAs (let's be time period correct there) by using faster films and creative developers. While this was most probably true for editorial photographers and photojournalists everyone I knew and worked with was in the commercial advertising sector or the portrait sector of professional photography and their goals were to discover the ultimate fine grained films and fine grained developers. For the advertising people it was all about providing clients with prints that had the highest detail with the least objectionable grain and a long tonal scale. For portraitists it was all about delivering the same but with the additional benefit of softer, more flattering skin tones. I spent about 25 years shooting, developing and printing mostly Tri-X film stock across 35mm and 6x6 formats and almost always shot them at their rated ASAs and developed in Kodak D-76 at pretty much exactly Kodak's recommendations for time and temperature. We made a lot of money delivering prints to magazines and advertising clients which, in addition to having the content they requested, also were fine grained, sharp and had just the right contrast. In some ways I think seeing photographers' choices from only one angle, or in one demographic, gives writers a blind spot to what a great many of the day in and day out professionals (outside of photojournalism) were doing with their processes and methodologies. And what their targets were.

In academic circles, what I observed as a lecturer at the University of Texas Austin, in the Fine Arts College, was most students and nearly all the faculty members were working with either Ilford fp4 or Kodak Tri-X and the prevailing method in and around 1980-1984 was to "rate" your black and white film one stop slower (over expose by one stop) than the "box" rating and then compensate by developing the film for 20% less time than the recommended time.

So, from fine arts/academic photographers through commercial workers, the struggle I always saw was the pursuit of less obvious grain and commensurate higher detail and resolution by using medium speed and slower films and "pulling" development.

Even today, when I talk to working professionals in those niches, the talk is never about super high ISOs in cameras but just how wonderful files look when the digital cameras are shot at their base ISOs. I take advantage of every opportunity I can to shoot at ISO 50 on a Leica SL2. It looks so great...

Anyway, that's my take. Thanks for the wonderful memories of the Dynaco gear. Back in the day playing the latest Joni Mitchell vinyl release on a great stereo system was dating magic.... YMMV (or, your playlist may vary YPMV).

You’re correct Mike. I do most of my photography with a meterless Nikon F2 and three lenses. I’m always thinking of upgrading, but will an upgrade help me take better pictures? The answer is almost certainly no. The bicycle analogy is apt for me, as an aging cyclist. Electronic shifting, ceramic bearings, carbon fiber rims: some of my riding pals have them. But would they make my cycling more enjoyable? Nope.

"The purpose and meaning of shooting film, and hence our approach to it, is radically different now since it has become an optional or even antiquarian pursuit."

Well, yes and no. Film is basically the same as it's been for years. If you have a 1/1000 sec. top shutter speed, you'll need that slower, sharper film if you don't want to use a neutral density filter over the lens on a sunny day.

Yes, digital will look just as good as the slower film if properly exposed. (Well, Tech Pan would have given digital a good run for its money.)

A fast lens will still make focusing easier with a film camera. An f/1.4 lens won't be that much easier to focus than an f/1.7 lens, so nothing has changed there, but compared to an f/2.8 lens, it'll be slightly easier to determine the exact focus.

Digital cameras don't show the exact view that you would get from a lens faster than f/2.8 anyhow. (I read that in one of Ken Rockwell's articles. I tried my Super Takumar f/1.4 with adapter on my K1 II and darned if he wasn't right.) I don't know if that applies to every single make, so feel free to show examples.

I pretty much agree with everything else in your post.

High ISO values of the digital cameras are great in themselves, but the ability to change the ISO for each photo sure beats having the wrong film speed in the camera during changing light conditions. Heck; sitting for a sunset, then taking some photos as the sky slowly dims, make the variable ISO setting very valuable.

I'll bet you get a bunch of comments to this post.

Our present capitalist societies are founded upon wants superseding needs, which is mostly but not always harmless.

Regarding motor drives, I remember reading in one of the dozen photo mags that I bought every month, in an article which featured some impressive sports photography, where the shooter took offense at the thought that his images were simply based on aiming and letting the motor drive blast through the film in seconds.

The photographer stated some basic math to counter that thought. If you are shooting at 1/1000th of a second, and your motor drive can give 5 FPS, in one second you have captured 5/1000th of that second. But you missed 995/1000th of that same second. With the perfect timing of his photos, it was obvious that he wasn't relying on the motor to get his shots in a spray and prey blast.

That article made me more discerning with my 36 exposures, and I put all my motor drives on single shot and basically used them as a electronic thumb.

This is totally unrelated to today’s post, but since it’s Film Friday I thought I’d share this link to a photo-essay in The Guardian about a gentleman creating platinum palladium prints in the UK, leveraging both digital and analogue methods.

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2025/feb/14/artisan-platinum-printer-craft-in-pictures

Actually, it's amazing how different guitar strings can sound. I didn't think it made much difference until I put my usual brand of guitar strings on a new to me guitar and it didn't sound at all like what it did with the strings it came with. I drove back to the store, found out what the store strings were, and bought a bunch.

Put that way, a half-frame film camera makes sense. I'm not making fun, I agree with you.

I've been scanning some Ilford negatives from 1974 that I processed myself. I digi-scanned them using an Olympus m4/3s camera, so I'm not a purist, and I'm getting sepia toned scans. I have to "convert" them to B&W. This means I've lived long enough to produce my own sepia-toned negatives naturally.

I know the tone is coming from the negatives and not a faulty workflow because I've digi-scanned recent FP4 negatives and they're actually B&W.

(Style question: I use "digi-scan" to mean scan by digital camera, as opposed to dedicated film or flatbed scanner. Is this commonly accepted?)

Loved this post. I'm guilty! But for me it was never tele lenses or motor drives, or Leicas. My optimization was film size---I disdain 35mm to this day, and digital is far, far superior to it unless you desire its defects, which is what they are.

No, I quickly tried 6x6, and then jumped to 4x5. But I soon found out that my very pretty field camera really crimped my style to a degree I hadn't anticipated---I had optimized myself into a corner!

So, I then "settled" on a Fuji 6x9. And I found my great love in film photography, and my work got much better, too! But I had the sin of photo gear snobbery---it was larger medium format (not even 645!) or else you were shooting poor stuff no matter what brand it was. So, from then on it wasn't those tele lenses that impressed but whether someone had a Hassy, or a Plaubel, or etc. And the "oooo's" started when I spotted a Mamiya 7. We're all funny creatures.

...Of course, one big result of that is that I am ignored by manufacturers, seldom receive embargoed announcements in advance, am almost never offered pre-production samples of upcoming new products so I can post a review on announcement day, and am never offered invitations to expenses-paid press junkets...

Not being in a Virginia prison for 35 years makes you better off than the person who admonished you. Failing to be a shill for photography manufacturers is far preferable to committing involuntary manslaughter.

When I was in college in 1972, I worked for a while at a store selling audio equipment. We sold a decent assortment of solid affordable equipment as well as high end expensive gear (MacIntosh, Marantz, Crown, Kilpsh, etc.. when they were still independent audiophile manufacturers). I observed then that the curve describing the relationship between cost and improvement in sound quality was not a straight line, but rather it had a steep initial portion (so you got a much better stereo for 400 1972 dollars than 200, then had a less steep slope in the mid portion (each dollar spent between $400 and $2000 or so got you more quality), and then it became very steep from $2000 and up, almost logarithmic. In the last portion of the curve you would need to spend an extra 50% to get another 5% increase in sound quality. I endeavored to sell people stereos at whatever level they could afford, but mostly in that linear mid-portion of the curve where you pretty much got what you paid for if you invested more money. But, some people absolutely had to "have the best chair", which was good for my commission, so....

I have observed this phenomenon to be mostly true for most of the gear related purchases I have made through the years, be they cameras, audio, cars, computers and related gear, clothing, furniture, etc..

By the way, during my youth a built a few Dynaco amps from kits. It was a lot of fun.

If I were to return to film I'd think really hard about 2.5 or 645 or 67 somethin like that. Of course it matters what you're going to point the camera at.

Are you trying to tell me that my K1000 with the Pentax-M 50/2 and roll of Tri-X is probably good enough to get the shot?

Switching chairs so that she could get the better of the two was a red flag.

[Not only that, the first time we broke up it was because there were spots on the toilet rim. She said we were too different, and my house was too messy, and when I protested that it wasn't messy at all (I had just moved in a couple of months prior) she pulled me into the bathroom to show me the toilet. There might have been spots on the toilet rim, but that was before I got my new cornea and I couldn't see well enough to detect them. (I wore glasses corrected to 20" to look at books and photos and the computer screen, but I had never put on my glasses to inspect the toilet bowl from 20" away, I'll admit it.)

Seems funny now. --Mike]

Solely a personal compliment: I have no hesitation in saying that you are simply the most enjoyable writer, photography focused (Herman would not be impressed) generalist, that I currently read.

I'd have to assume quite the ego to suggest this is a particularly meaningful compliment, but it's meaningful to me. I'll adopt an abbreviation here: FWIW.

[Thank you very much Nikhil! That's quite a lovely compliment and it made my day. --Mike]

Of course, avoiding over-optimization isn’t just a good practice for film photography. As you’ve rightfully reminded us, digital photography has passed the point of sufficiency long ago, so that “buying new stuff to make better pictures” (as opposed to other reasons for buying stuff) is often self-delusion. Yes, I delude myself from time to time!

I kind of wish that manufacturers working in mature product categories would offer a “last one you’ll need” line - full featured but without the gimmicks, durable and repairable, supported for decades. Such products would be expensive upfront but lower cost in the long run.

Then they could put their R&D resources towards bigger innovative leaps and truly new products.

I know, I know….that’s not how it works (with a few rare exceptions). But I can dream!

Thank you for the story about the snow and the chairs; it is worthy of Chekhov. The "I have to have the best chair" attitude (which you interpret benevolently here) is completely puzzling to me: how come? How are you entitled to the best chair? Why wouldn't you want your company to have the best chair? -- I would like to know whether this is a difference between American and European culture... or if it is just a very special person.

[I said in the first draft that if one chair had been better than the other, I would have given it to her in the first place, but it sounded a little self-serving so I cut it. But it's true. Then again, I'm not picky about chairs. --Mike]

I must admit not being much of a compulsive optimizer for most things, in fact in most cases it is counterproductive. One attempt was buying a custom sound system for a new car I had just bought that came with only an am radio. I went to a local specialist that advertised heavily on the radio. They had a system where you could switch between different setups that were arranged by ever increasing prices. Long story short I ended up buying the cheapest one, the next several upgrades sounded the same to me!
Oh and my answer to your friend would have been to hand her the toilet brush and say well this area will have to be your responsibility then.

As Mr Dunn suggested, ""last one you’ll need” line - full featured but without the gimmicks, durable and repairable, supported for decades." That sounds like the Leica M film cameras, still in production.

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