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Very insightful discussion. My takeaway is that synthographs are to be accepted by the art world, not feared and loathed. And the creators (humans all) are the liars if they choose to be.

But who owns the copyright, the AI or the individual telling the AI what it should create? And is create the proper term?

At what stage does your photograph taken with a camera that has a lookup table to rectify / fix the lens vignette (one example) parameters (before it gets to the raw file) is more synthograph than photograph? The same question could be asked of Adobe / Dxomark with AI 'enhanced' noise reduction or scene calibration during file processing? Is there a line where a file becomes more synth than photo purely because your work flow incorporates significant computational enhancements or because the lens you've chosen is not fully optically optimised and needs a bios file to work?
Does that mean a mirror less camera is more a synth recorder than say a Leica rangefinder is a light recorder? :)
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Thanks for the introduction to that term, Mike. I really don't like that this is what we've come to in the realm of photography. I wish I held out hope that your "ideal world" would manifest itself. Alas, I don't.

Baudrillard (and to a lesser degree Focault and Barthes) are much undervalued. They provide an accurate description of the postmodern world we live, reason and feel in, as exemplified in the article you cited. Can’t recommend reading them enough, if possible in the original french language. Their treatment of language as a malleable tool is admirable.

Recently I keep coming across this distinction about the results of AI: that they avoid the process. Uncritical AI advocates only care about the finished result, ignoring the importance of the process.

e.g. AI street photography - the importance of a person being there, noticing a unique scene, capturing the moment, the viewer knowing they're sharing a special scene that happened.

Or AI "paintings" or similar art - the importance of an artist making thousands and thousands of decisions during the making, of spending hours, days or weeks on perfecting the final result, the viewer knowing they're seeing the result of not only all the time put into making it, but the years the artist spent on improving their craft.

Or students using AI to write essays - the final essay in itself isn't the important thing, despite it being the thing that gets marked. The important thing is the process of researching, thinking, synthesising and writing. Learning to think and communicate. Skipping that step just to get a grade skips the learning that is the purpose of the task.

Using that definition, most of the Tonalist landscape painters of the late 1800s to early 1900s were producing synthographic art. Painters like George Inness and J. Francis Murphy spent years drawing/sketching and painting outdoors to create a mental warehouse of imagery and visual tropes. Then they worked from memory and intuition, creating moody and emotionally resonant paintings of entirely imaginary scenes that nonetheless felt more "real" and meaningful than the photographs being produced in ever increasing numbers. It's well documented that many of the later Hudson River School painters like Frederick Church and Thomas Moran used photography as a tool for their giant studio paintings. Most of the Tonalist painters did not, creating images from their mental storehouse instead.

Synthographs?
I am just getting used to Pixelographs.

'"AI photograph" is a contradiction in terms, an irredeemable misnomer.'

Can a misnomer contradict a misnomer? Do two misnomers combine into a worse misnomer or do they cancel each other out and yield a legitimate term? What if we "go with the flow" and simply concatenate this monstrosity to "artificial photograph"?

I admit, "synth____" might be useful coinage for a panoply of things now mislabeled "AI" this or that. Personally, I prefer "simul____" and the modifier "simulated", as in "simulographs" made by "simulated intelligence", as they more accurately capture the illusory nature of "AI".

On the other hand, taking Geoff Wittig's comment into consideration (though he's hanging an awful lot on temporality in his example), maybe we should try to emphasize the machine, as opposed to the synthetic, aspect; for example something like "computography" (though that sounds so 1980s).

Anyway, this will all be academic if my whimsy that the term "ersatz" will re-emerge to rescue us from this artificial hell actually happens.

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