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Best of luck. I have a handful of old (5 years +) SanDisk UHS I and UHS II SD cards which still perform flawlessly, admittedly on very sporadic use. OTOH, I have SanDisk CFE (B) card which I got tempted into buying at a sale at B&H a couple of years ago, and it sucks big time - it is as slow as molasses and it heats up at the drop of a hat. It has now been relegated as the backup card for my regular back up cards, in other words, the last ditch option, to be used only when truly desperate!

I am sure that you will be OK with your choice. Why is it assumed by some that when a company changes hands something terrible will happen to it? Remember all the doomsayers when Olympus became OM Systems? As it happens,the only card that failed on me was a Lexar.

Penny wise. Pound foolish.

My father in law owns some incredible digital cameras and lenses. More for the act of possessing them, then in the using.

Having spent enough to buy a lovely brand new car on his latest photo purchasing splurge, he mentioned to me that he was having trouble with one of them.

The problem was the card. In fact, all of the cards. He only owns the cheapest, nastiest, almost guaranteed to be fake Amazon sourced cards. And of course, write errors are their raison d'etre.

So, I gave him a couple of 64gb Sandisk Extreme Pros. Problem solved.

Funny how some people know the price of everything but the true value of almost nothing.

Congratulations, you're now a proud member of the lowest common denominator group. This group perpetually wins the "most units sold" category.

The thing you don't get into in your analysis is that there are multiple sources of chips involved with cards. While the stated ability may be the same, the actual abilities differ under stress (heat, speed, etc.). They also differ in projected lifespan.

[But where is such information found? I read what I could find at your site. Did I miss it? --Mike]

SD cards have one advantage over CFe and other modern cards: they're mostly "dumb". So you don't get into the logic control aspect (another chip), because that's built into the device using the card.

Your gift card reminds me of my employer's cash gift to me on my work anniversary, just as Apple announced new iPads. The gift was *just* short of the cost of an iPad Pro with a keyboard and an Apple Pencil. Is the universe trying to tell me something? If I were smart, I'd get the cheaper iPad Air (it's fine, and a huge upgrade to my 2015 iPad Pro), skip the keyboard (my old bluetooth keyboard is fine), and spend the rest on a new lens.

I've shot digital since 2007. Not a long time, admittedly. Over this time I've used SanDisk, Lexar, Delkin, Transcend and Kingston cards in various cameras. I've only had one card go haywire--a SanDisk SDHC. Later, after reading about counterfeit SanDisk cards, I checked that old dead card and, yep, it fit the description of a fake.

I didn't even know SanDisk was owned by WD until reading this article. Doesn't bother me--I always buy SanDisk these days and I buy from B&H or directly from Amazon Prime to avoid potential fakes. Not a video shooter, not a high quantity shooter and I don't need speed. The lower speed SanDisk cards are cheap and reliable and a perfect fit for my needs.

Ironically, Dan Ariely has been engulfed in controversy recently - for dishonesty in his research methods...

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2023/08/gino-ariely-data-fraud-allegations/674891/
https://www.npr.org/2023/07/27/1190568472/dan-ariely-francesca-gino-harvard-dishonesty-fabricated-data

[That's interesting, because I remember when I read the book (quite a few years ago now) I got the impression that the writing was pretty glib. When people are being careful about data there's a certain caution and carefulness that can be detected just in the way they write. --Mike]

As you hinted in your post, another reason to opt for faster SD cards is because (assuming you have a fast card reader) they can transfer photos and video to your computer more quickly. The difference isn't always significant though, and is most noticeable when you're dealing with large files and/or a full card.

"The card I bought is called the SanDisk 64GB Extreme PRO UHS-II SDXC. The V60 version."
This SanDisk SD card has been a mainstay of my memory cards for a long time. (Its predecessor, the 170mb read version before that.) Never had one fail. (In fact, in 22 years I've only had one memory card fail.) Excellent price. Plenty fast for (my) photography. I've never come close to filling one.

It sounds like that Wise card reader is just the ticket. An impressive improvement. Plus, it was only 42 cents out of your pocket!

Despite the warnings about lower quality since the Western Digital buyout, I've had reliable service from my SanDisk UHS-I cards. I've only filled up a card once. (I was making copies of my dad's old slides, in RAW and jpeg.)

The info about Angelbird, ( https://www.cined.com/angelbird-factory-tour-this-is-how-your-memory-card-is-made-cined-exclusive/ ) mentioned that "The manufacturing and production of all of the above (Excluding [sic] SD cards) are also being made in Austria."

Two of the four cards are just backups and I've formatted the cards I use in the camera about four times. My computer seems to have a slow card reader like you used to use -- usually a few minutes for less than 75 36MB files (plus the associated (20MB?) jpeg copies). Eh, I don't sit and stare at the computer while it's reading the files.

I would have to look at the cards to get the capacity. I just don't concern myself, since I figured out how big a card I needed when I ordered them. (I had to look at the specs of the K1 II online to know that I have UHS-I in the camera.)

These SD card posts had me battling torpidity. Gratefully, reader Mike Chisholm roused me with "apotropaic," and sent me scrambling for the dictionary.

On the subject of "But we also "follow ourselves," in effect, because we have a pretty strong tendency to do what we've done before." - from what I understand, the underlying reason is that we like to believe we are consistent and do not wish to run counter to the image of ourselves. That self reinforcement was used in the Korean War to move prisoners along towards a desired point of view. They would be asked to write something that 'everyone could agree with' such as the pain of being separated from loved ones, and then having written a series of statements they would be confronted with the 'inevitable' conclusion of where their written statements had led them.

Despite the fact that my most recently bought camera is a Canon (R6) I still think of myself as a Nikon shooter - and I feel the siren call with every new Nikon or third-party lens for Z mount that is in the news. It is hard for the brain to give up on something that is not only useful but tactile. Not for nothing the satin finish, the curves, the 'fits like a glove' etc.
Did you know that there is no one-button press to swap from centre focus to subject priority on the Z5, 6, 7 models and, I am told, only partially addressed on the 8.
Wheres on the R6 there is a one-button hold and swap focus.

I found this "Congratulations, you're now a proud member of the lowest common denominator group" to be a bit savage. Especially for TH.

Since the dawn of digital, I have used multiple brands, some of which failed. But, the only brand never to have failed is Sandisk.

My first Sandisk card was 1gb. And it cost me just under $1000. Holy shit. The money I've spent on this hobby.

Get a decent USB C hub, then your port juggling needn't happen. I've got plenty of Sandisk cards, CF, SD and microSD, never had an issue with them.

So glad you included the SD cards for scale - I was really asking myself what size those spoons were.

[Exactly. How else are you supposed to know that the spoons are actually quite small and delicate?

By the way, those two spoons crossed the Atlantic with my first American ancestor on my mother's side, A.D. 1750. --Mike]

I meant to mention Mike, I've never had issues with Sandisk cards, both CF and SD. It's a good thing since my Z50, Z6, and Z7 have single card slots.

The write-protect switch is actually the thing I love most about SD cards. I can let someone copy my photos to date at a convention, or I can copy their photos to date at a convention, without much credible risk of being accused of messing up the card. I don't recall that it's ever caused me a problem.

Transferring *to* the computer is always after the fact, so I don't care if that's a bit slow. Write speed is so rarely an issue for stills that I can't remember a personal case. So video is the only place it really matters to me -- would let me shoot 4k with less compression (in the UHS-II slot; my camera is one of the mixed ones).

Tell me you come from a family with money without saying you come from a family with money.

Oh. Wait. The spoons.

After all that you bought the 64 GB version of the one I use (128 GB version). I have had no issues, and like a lot of folks commenting, I didn't know there were issues with SanDisk! I hope they work out for you.

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