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What a beautiful camera - The X100 V6 does temp me but I'd like to see Fuji update the menu system to make the work flow a bit smoother. It is not quite weather sealed yet & I don't know how much I would use the optical viewfinder.

Given the popularity of this form factor, could Nikon bring back their rangefinder? I hope so.

Chris in Wisconsin

I wonder if Fuji ever considered making one without the hybrid viewfinder, to have only the optical viewfinder with the framelines/speed/etc information read in.
Probably not many would go for it? For the 3 days I used an X-Pro 2 I only used it with the optical viewfinder. Too niche?

Mike wrote: “Using the front switch that pays homage to the frameline lever on ancient Leicas.” The frame line lever exists on even the current M11. Many users, especially newer ones, find it quite handy.

FWIW, Leica experimented with a hybrid VF for the M, according to Stefan Daniel, but ended the project due to unacceptable compromises to both viewing systems. Simply not enough space to meet Leica standards. The Fuji, without a mechanical rangefinder mechanism, has no such size constraints.

The little Fujis are cute, but I have just gone in the opposite direction with my 2010 era Pentax K5. I love this camera, superb build quality and it fits my hand like a glove. I've never worked up the nerve to sell it but I don't have a use for it; it sits on a shelf. But I suddenly thought of a use for it and a legitimate one that will allow me to enjoy that rock solid build: a DSLR superzoom! My K5 is now sporting a Tamron 18-250mm (27-375mm eq) 19x zoom for those days when you can't be bothered to plan a day out photographing and just want an all-in-one solution. A replacement for my FZ1000 I sold on recently. Total cost £82, with a six month guarantee.

I have wondered about that constant increase in automobile stiffness myself. If you think of the automobile, overall as a spring, (I know, “imagine a spherical cow”) increasing the stiffness of the spring increases the natural frequency of the system. When the natural frequency gets into the audible range. I would imagine that it would be pretty unpleasant, and just below the audible range, and I speak from experience with farm machinery here, is pretty unpleasant as well. Perhaps the stiffness of which they speak is a different sort of stiffness?

Now they just need a monochrome version for you!

One feature of these cameras that is often overlooked is the digital zoom built into the focus ring that gives you an additional 50 and 75 mm FOV using the EVF. I use it fairly often. Plus, through some computational wizardry, the file size of the zoomed images is only slightly less than the full 35 mm view, so you're not losing much. Kinda cool, in my mind.

I had the original X100.

Heavy.
Large.
Horrible focal length.
Looked expensive (thief magnet).

Some things never change. Sigh.

Image quality was profound though. As was colour rendering. And printed output was glorious.

The 15mm Panasonic micro 4/3 lens has better haptics and equal IQ. And the 30mm equivalent focal length for me, is simply perfect.

If they can squeeze IBIS in a X100 they should be able squeeze it in a future X-E… series camera.
Fingers crossed, incense burned, chicken sacrifi… Forget that last bit.

I had an X100F for a couple of years and I really wanted to love it. I wanted it to be my always on my shoulder Leica type camera. But I just didn’t. I experienced the known issue with the switch and prism system to go back and forth between optical and electronic viewfinder. It kept switching to electronic on its own which I never wanted. A very expensive repair. I stopped trusting it. I finally sold it and bought a used Leica M Type 240 which I absolutely adore. Should have done it from the beginning.

I put it briefly into my shopping cart, then backed away slowly. Then I went out shooting with my still excellent camera and had a great time in awesome light. But if my wife decides this is a good Christmas present for me, I won't complain!

I can see why these things are so popular - it meets all my requirements; (a) small and light, (b) allows for my most used trilogy of 28/35/55 mm without much extra weight and changes without exposing sensor to dust (fixed lens), (c) OVF, and (d) sufficient megapixels for larger exhibition prints. IBIS sounds wonderful to me, even though I've never owned anything with it. I suppose I'll have to buy one...

Just as I came to terms that I did not need a Nikon ZF, even though I truly prefer have some dials on my camera, this critter pops up. IBIS is a big, big big draw - but looking at what I was able to capture with my Z6 and 35 1.8 - useable - good looking, even, color shots at ISO 12,800 by firelight! Even with IBIS, and APS-C 40MP sensor is not going to do better than a 'full-frame' 24MP one.

Bummer. It's gorgeous and I loved my x100 and x100S, but at $1600, you are correct - it's near Veblen territory.

For me, the weather sealing the V introduced was the key improvement. IBIS is nice, but not (yet?) necessary for me. Now, 40mp is handy to crop, but I think I can wait. First upgrading to the new OM-1 II.

I see they still use the "fall-off" style lens cap.

The X100 is the reason I never bought any Fuji APS-C cameras. I looked at the XPro-1 when it came out, but it took a very long time for a 23mm, (35mm equivalent), lens to appear for that system, no doubt to protect sales of the new X100. Instead I bought a Nex-7 and 24mm f1.8 Zeiss, still an excellent imaging making combination.

Robert Plotkin's opening paragraph in his article about the original X100 in 2010 right here on TOP is one of the funniest things I've ever read in a camera review, and his whole article is superbely written (and doesn't hold back on the significant weaknesses of the original X100): https://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2011/12/guest-post-robert-plotkin-on-the-x100.html

The X100S was my gateway drug into the Fuji ecosystem, which I'm still happily using to this day. After getting an X-T1 I liked using an EVF so much that I just wasn't using the OVF on the X100s, and its performance in other areas was getting rather behind, so I sold it on after 6-7 years. Maybe someday Fuji will grace us with an XE4 with the bigger sensor and IBIS...

To answer Hugh Crawford's question in a very generalized manner, the reasons you make an automobile structure stiffer include:
1) crash protection - strong where you need it allows it to deform where you want it to in a crash;
2) ride quality - a stiff structure allows for softer suspension tuned for ride quality;
3) handling - conversely, a stiff structure also allows the suspension to better control motion when encountering bumps, dips, weight transfer from side-to-side and back-to-front, etc.

The idea of the entire vehicle as a spring is somewhat useful when the structure is floppy (think of a 1980s economy car). As you make the structure stiffer, the suspension is better able to be the "spring" and isolate movement and harshness from the main structure and occupants of the vehicle.

Read recently that one can swap the screw-in diopter between an X-Pro1 and an Fujica ST-901… wonder if that the same for the X100 series?

I now use an X-S10 camera and an XC 18-50 Fuji lens. Both with IBIS. I live in Western Oregon (rain!). Both bought for $600 total a couple years ago. Both suit me well and I see no need to change. Another prime rounds out my bag.

This is a semi-flagship camera from a major player and there's something that I don't understand. Why must the buyers of this model (and the previous V) have to hunt out and aquire the apparently "must have" accessories, such as a square hood and a thumb grip? If you watch the numerous YouTube videos from street/travel photographers using the X100 class camera, you'd be hard pressed to find serious shooters that don't have at least the hood and grip. I use to think.the thumb grip was a joke until I bought one and now I wouldn't ever use my X-E and X-Pro bodies without it. I also bought the expensive Square Hood for my X100 because I couldn't stand to see that exposed glass with no physical protection and flare shielding.

If you buy a Fujifilm XF lens, you get a hood, so why not on this model that has an integrated lens? This body should come complete in the box at this price and prestige class. The buyer should not have to make separate purchases to have a complete set up.

As for me, I'll not be buying this model. I'm full-Fuji with half a dozen bodies and over ten lenses, but I have no need or desire for 40mp. I'm happy with my 16mp bodies and have two X-T3 bodies with 26mp X-Trans sensors that have never been any limitation for real world shooting, so I don't need 40 memory clogging, processor slowing megapixels.

Maybe FUJI is following Apple and pricing high to see how much the market will bear. Certainly looks like it.
In time the price will drop! Patience pays just wait for the impatient to move on to the next great thing.
I would definitely buy this but currently have a sony rx100va which has ibis and a 24-70 zoom F1.8-2.8 which second hand is much less than half the price of the fuji

I hadan earlier version, thought I’d love it but a single focal length lens was just not for me. I’m a fan of “real” cameras as opposed to the ubiquitous iPhone, but it just never worked for me. I’m sure they’ll sell as many as they can make. I’ve become a “one system, one camera” person. Lenses on the other hand, I have WAY too many lenses.

Perusing specs:
Flash sync at all speeds (to 1/1,000 at all apertures, 1/2,000 f/4~f/16 and 1/4,000 f/8~f/16…
Hmm, maybe I need this. Haven’t done any daylight flash street photography in ages.

It's such an Apple-esque strategy to hold out for so long on a feature that everyone else has (IBIS) and then finally release it as one of their major features, counting on a faithful following who will sing its praises. Wow, that sounded harsh. The X100 series is the Fuji that I have the most positive views about. But it's still baffling. It's a nice little camera, but I think Fuji's pedigree isn't such that it should be brought up in the same sentence as Leica. It feels firmly anchored in the modern "electronics" world rather than the historical "machine" world. The camera that I think fits the "machine" ethos more fully is the Pentax K-3 Mark III Monochrome that I'm testing out. That camera feels like it has history in its DNA, while I feel the X100 cameras always had history in their thoughts.

I bought the original X100 new in 2011 for $1200, so $1600 for the X100VI in 2024 doesn’t really seem like much of a price increase.
I still love my old X100 and use it all the time: It’s small (but not too), light (but not too), great hybrid viewfinder, beautiful colors, great 35mm equivalent lens, solid mechanics. I want to upgrade to the newest iteration, but I really don’t need to!

I don’t understand why some people consider the X100VI’s asking price of $1600 as Veblen territory. Mainstream mirrorless cameras are starting at $2000 and more these days - without lenses. Many more are in the $3K, 4K, 5K and 6K range. Yes, many people can’t afford $1600 - or even $600. But, in the current market, the new Fuji is reasonably and fairly priced.

I have experienced some of these novelties with digital cameras. I have a Sigma DP3 and a Leica Q2, and I find them confusing to use, the Leica being a very expensive mistake for me.

In my case, I attempted to give birth to a kidney stone, (giving birth is very tough for a bloke, it is bad enough for the ladies) and a subsequent OD of morphine due to communication issues between paramedic and consultant, which made my lifelong Crohn’s disease and its episodes seem like a walk in the park (which it is most definitely not).

Since then, the resulting short term memory issues are encouraging me to get back to basics. In short, I have been picking up my ancient Rolleiflex 3.5t and shooting 12 shots. No extra rolls in my pocket and more selective, rather than spray and pray.

As a result, I have been looking at acquiring a pre-M Leica, they can still be bought cheapish, though not as cheap as the one that I did the OCOLOY with back in the day.

The reason for the possible move is due solely to the unwieldy nature of the Rolleiflex, I would rather be able to slip a simple camera into my pocket as I did with my Leica ii, with a short roll of film (24 exposures, or I could roll my own in even shorter lengths), and take it from there.

Until recently we could buy such film from the local £ shop, for yes £1, it is colour, but it can still be used and developed in B&W chemicals to produce pretty good B&W negs. Even without the option of the £ shop, colour film is pretty inexpensive.

I have a bag of the stuff, (well around 30 rolls) all of which is now expired, I just need to source an old camera, those old Leica's seem to be priced between £300 and £600 depending on spec and condition (other cameras are of course a cheaper option).

I will have to try and find a scanner, I sold my last one for £900 and attempted to employ a digital camera to ’scan’ the negs, and couldn’t make it work very well. That scanner is now over £2,000 and used ones are few and far between. I suspect that I may forget about attempting to scan MF and just be happy with 35mm, the scanners are much cheaper.

I now really regret exchanging my collection of old film cameras, for that Q2. Maybe it is time to trade down the Q2… besides, my memory issues mean that I nearly always forget to install the battery, or the card. It will cost me, but not as much as switching gear costs a golfer.

My x100v still meets my needs perfectly. Interestingly, I don't use it in the way many photographers might, or even for its intended purpose of candid photography. Instead, I primarily utilize it for quick studio shots, focusing on products and infographics. On a recent trip, I packed it for easy access, keeping it separate from my digital Hasselblad. Yet, throughout three days of traveling and photographing, I never once felt the need to use the x100v. When I got back, I realized I had left it in the camper van; I only remembered to retrieve it a day later and then returned it to its place in the studio. Although I did capture some street scenes during my trip, those shots were taken with my Hasselblad.

Aw heck, I went ahead and pre-ordered one of these, let's see of I end up cancelling.

I can readily see that as an image making machine, the final product will be indistinguishable from prior versions of the model, sure.

But I think I ordered it for the nostalgia element. Not nostalgia for old fixed-lens rangefinders of the 60s and 70s. But nostalgia for the X100 itself.

Because way back in the day- 2011 we had bulbous plastic DSLRs of the same format, or even bulbouser new 35mm format DSLRs. But the X100 appeared in the midst of all that- svelte, slim, seductive in its simplicity and petiteness.

But like all of us, it's no longer what it was, with so much competition and many alternatives having grown up around it. So happy that Fuji is still putting out upgrades on this old girl, but now it seems not so compact anymore, kind of restricted, a little bloom lost: sort of, I don't know, dated.

Well for the first time since 2010 I am going to be without an X100. I have owned every version of the camera. I sold my V version last week for $1300. I sat up and placed a pre-order with B&H within 3 minutes of when they opened. I do have a receipt confirming this. I contacted B&H this AM about it. Apparently that wasn't fast enough. The salesperson told me it would be a minimum of 6 months before they could fill my order.

I promptly contacted Adorama. The salesperson there told me they had over 1,000 pre-orders of the black they couldn't fill this week and exactly 486 of the silver they wouldn't be able to fill. He said it would probably be a 6 to 9 month wait to get one.

I cancelled my order. What's the point. I am little soured on Fuji at this point. On the plus side listed my X Pro 3 this AM for $1400 and it sold in 15 minutes. That X100V didn't even take 5 minutes. So I am going to strike while the iron is hot and list all the rest of my Fuji gear including the GFX 50R, a X-T5, and multiple lenses this week. The upside is everything is selling at a premium. I think a lot of people will be soured on Fuji after this experience. I have a couple of other friends who place pre-orders for the X100VI at our local camera store in Houston. They cancelled theirs too since they were told the delivery time would be in multiple months.

I have been shooting Fuji since 2011. I do have a Leica Q2 Monochrome and a GR III. Looks like I am going back to Nikon since Fuji can't seem to anticipate the demand for their products. I am ordering the Zf plus the 40mm lens today. I made enough off the X100V and X Pro to buy that and put money in my pocket.

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