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These look just like my "Large" Advent Speakers from days of yore, also a Henry Kloss company, though the Advents were a two way with a suspended woofer.

You brought back memories of my first decent speakers. I have no memories of where I got them, only that they were used, they were German, and they were sealed 3-ways. Telefunken, I think. They were also 4 ohm, which was probably why I got rid of them when I got some much bigger Canadian made Axiom speakers that I still have (ported, of course).

Thanks for these hifi posts. A long time friend has LS3/5A loudspeakers since the 1970's and I'm therefore fairly familiar with their sound. You reported accurately on them. Right now I'm digging my Genelec 8030C powered monitors. They reproduce EVERYTHING, including any distortion present, very well.
I like most of the off-topic subjects, but alas cannot feign interest in pool or most sports.

I'm with you on Jazz from that period, although I actually extend that back to bebop in the late 40's (especially Monk) all the way into the '60's (again Monk, but also a bunch of avant garde people). My mom accidentally gave me my first Monk album when I was about 13, and I was done for. I had far more jazz in my record collection than rock---more country blues and other blues than rock as well.

Monk was my litmus test for friends. Kind of a stern one if you think about it. If they liked Monk, then we could be really good friends. If not, then we'd only ever be acquaintances. My wife passed the test with flying colors in 1974 when we were freshmen in college and I played an album for her for the first time, and she hadn't ever heard much jazz at all. She fell in love with Monk then and there. We're still together.

BTW, just got the new catalog,"Yevonde, Life and Color", the catalog for her exhibition at the National Portrait Gallery, London. Kind of great, especially the color separation work.

Omaha is lucky to have two great audio showrooms.
Custom Electronics and The Sound Environment both carry extensive lines of high end stereo gear.
Check out their websites. So much cool stuff.
Custom Electronics is also owned by a very fine large format black and white photographer.

Good music suggestion. I listened on Tidal as I haven’t heard this album before, and will probably get it via Presto as a FLAC download. That doesn’t help you unfortunately, but the Amazon link doesn’t seen to offer that option. Anyway, if you have any more suggestions, by all means let us know.

I’m hoping the return of the JBL L100 makes the list…

[They sorta did! --Mike]

When Singer owned KLH, didn’t they also own Graflex?
I have a lot of Singer Graflex gear around here, mostly film holders.

What’s the modern equivalent of an EPI 100 or small Advent?

I happen to have a pair of KLH 5s which I bought in the 60s, second-hand (or I should say “preowned”). I see that the new ones are selling for $2K, I doubt that they were that expensive back then, I could not have afforded them even used. For what it’s worth, there are differences with the new model, mine have a 12” woofer and two 3” mid-range speakers, instead of the 10” woofer and 4” midrange in the new model. I’m sure these differences make mine extremely valuable collectors’ items, as you’ll agree.

If you are into British speakers, my system has a pair of Royd A7 which I’ve had for a long time. perhaps a bit small for your tastes, but I like the sound.

I reckon that speaker choice is "all in the ear of the beholder", aka "subjective". You find something that sounds good as far as you are concerned, and then live with that sound.

I have lived with Linn Saras for well over twenty years, probably near thirty and I am happy, most of the time. In between, I have borrowed/bought Kans/LS35As/Isobariks/Meridian-Lecsons (which my son used and then ruined by fitting new drivers).

Every so often, I wonder whether there is something I will like better out there, and I borrow or buy them, and after a while, I end up back with the Saras.

Others will have a different version of "good", and for them, they will be right.

I remember many years ago that Herbert von Karajan was featured in a loudspeaker advert, indeed, until it was realised that he was active in the Nazi party in the 1930's. Suddenly the speakers that he thought were among the best, were right out.

Karajan was a member of the Nazi party, but was classified as the equivalent of a "fellow traveller" after the war. One pretty well had to be a party member to get on in music at that time (unless you were Furtwangler). Millions did the same thing in that generation. The whole state was infected. Karl Bohm, who never get heaped with such opprobium was a devout follower of Hitler even before 1933 and insisted on the Nazi greeting. He never needed to join the party as it was well known he was an enthusiast for the regime. I have always thought that Bohm got off very lightly, it may have been because he was Austrian and therefore, as the post war line went, the first victims of Nazi aggression. Of course Hitler was Austrian by birth, naturalized to the Reich.

Mike—You might want to peruse the article "Sealed is Not Acoustic Suspension"; it's here…https://www.audioholics.com/loudspeaker-design/acoustic-suspension

Sealed ("infinite baffle") loudspeakers are especially desirable if one intends to supplement the bass by adding paired subwoofers—lots easier to coordinate the phase adjustment.

Back in the late 60s I bought a pair of Wharfedale 60s from a friend needing $$ and used them with my AR turntable and Macintosh (?) amp. Most of this was used happily the next 30+ years. But that's not the story I want to tell.
In the mid-70s when I was working for Analog Devices (an electronics/semiconductor pioneer in Boston), a lot os us were into audio. One of the engineers I worked with had worked for several Boston area electronics companies that dabbled in audio. He told me a guy he worked with had built a custom house with a listening room in the basement. He decided to use Klipsch's design but pour the speakers housings in concrete in the basement to build his own speakers matched to his own amplifiers and create an audio chamber for listening, Never wrangled an invite to see this unfortunately.

This is to answer jp41, who asked earlier this month if anyone had experience with Ohm Walsh speakers (should have replied to that thread, but I didn't notice until the comments were closed).

In my experience, the Ohm Walsh speakers are very good at sustaining a stereo image that does not change character in a distracting way as you move around a bit. (No financial interest, merely a satisfied customer.)

jp41's original comment:
Left turn: On the subject of "off axis sound", does anyone have listening experience with Ohm designed Walsh speakers? I've always thought this verical cone shaped design would be excellent for listening to off axis as one is moving about inside a living space. Does anyone out there have first hand experience to share on Ohm Walsh speakers?

Just wanted to mention Tannoy speakers (from Scotland!), however, they follow a completely different design (concentric drivers, ported). The concentric drivers give a surprisingly detailed directional rendering.

Happy listening, everyone!

Hello Mike, I have been wondering if you are migrating your blog to topics other than photography which I miss.

Still have my JBL-L26's, Yamaha YP-D71 TT and Yamaha CA-610II amp from 70's college days. Although the amp needs to have a channel adjusted and I replaced the woofer cones on the JBL's, everything else works perfectly. Still blows my mind when listening to Steely Dan or Jazz LP's.

[The YP-D71 was my favorite turntable. Still have one in the basement. --Mike]

Back around 1980, my wealthier friend bought a pair of Mission 770s. I could only afford its little brother, the 700. Wonderful speakers, in the right room. Super accurate stereo imaging, good dynamics, a little light on the bass but very tight, and affordable.

They had one fatal flaw, and that was the foam surround on the woofers, which would get brittle and dissolve into dust after a few years. I got mine replaced just under the wire of the 10 year warranty, but they just rotted out again and by 2002 I had to put them out on the curb because Mission no longer serviced them. A shame, but a lot of speakers made at that time fell victim to this. I'd have to get some reassurance that the re-issue has solved the problem, because I'm mighty tempted to dive back in.

MJ: " but, as I age, my brain becomes more like a messy attic. "

Oh, I know the feeling! Do I know the feeling!

I have owned my Mission 727s since 1982. Never heard a reason to change, and now they are famous again! I could easily have gone down a hole with a lot of different speakers, glad I found these when I was much younger.

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