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Can’t show NFL athletic feats without including at least one Gale Sayers’ highlight. Still a favorite, and I’ve never been a Bears’ fan.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XhNYlQObfyQ

I have tried for a hole in one but the darned windmill vanes keep blocking the hole. Golf is tough!

This does Sayers more justice, with expert commentary to emphasize his extraordinary gifts..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2Fb6kiQ2Y9A

In other words, the difference between games and sport. Ask the same question about beating swimmers over any distance (or running, or gymnastics, even cycling...) and you'd be counting hopefuls in single digits.

Yeah, great video, and I don't even like tennis. Here's another perspective from a sales colleague of mine almost 25 years ago. He played single A baseball for a bit. He had zero patience with fans who would diss some player with a .210 batting average or a north of 4 ERA. He said, look at it this way:

Every player on a major league team was a phenom at every level during their childhood and teenage years---best on the team by far, best in the league, all-county, all-state, all the way up through college (if they went). Only the best of these guys wind up in single A. Only the best get to double A. Only the best of them get to triple A. Only the best of them go to "The Show".

So the guy a fan complains about as being a bum who should get fired is actually an incredible athlete and player with mad skills.

What fish said.
I doubt I can do for 5 seconds what a top cyclist can do for 5 hours, let alone get near what they can do for 5 seconds.

I've played ping pong against junior state champions (when I was in that age range myself) and against people who have played in the US national championships (not come anywhere near winning it). I was one of the top players on my college campus.

And, just from seeing top-level players on TV, I'm not sure how often I could return their serves, and my return of their return would be nearly non-existent. It's amazing to watch.

I may still be greatly over-estimating my ability. (Also I'm talking about my ability back in college, not 50 years later.)

As teen in the Babe Ruth League I was okay as a fielder. As a hitter I was a placement hitter putting the ball pretty much "where they ain't." A bunch of my relatives put together a donation to the Jimmy Fund so I could take three strikes from Jim Lonborg. After the first pitch, a strike BTW, I figured I'd just swing hoping I could get lucky and put the bat on the ball. It didn't go well.

The NY Times had a fun piece comparing Tour de France riders against amateur riders (using Strava data) - and the amateurs get spanked on every single climb despite having huge headstarts (like 30 mins).
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/07/23/upshot/tour-de-france-amateurs.html

Important note: The "amateurs" they highlight are not "average" people pootling around town on their bike. They are serious riders who do a lot of climbing. Oh also, the pros are doing these performances in the middle of a 3 week tour where they are climbing like this day after day - not a one time attempt up Col de Tourmalet.

Pro bike riders really are on another level.

(On a side note, looking forward to the Maryland international pro bike race in a few weeks that is literally going right by my house!)

Too true. Professional cyclists are known to turn up and train in a locality new to them and completely destroy all the top local amateurs KOM times on Strava. As an amateur, I watch the pros on TV and their speeds, compared to my former best days, especially up hills, are mind boggling.

The tennis you see on TV is not the same game played by the best club members ( except for the rules & equipment). But let's not go far astray. How many of us would compare our photos to those of a pro? When it comes to elite athletes who have put thousands of hours into what they do, they are physiologically incomparable with amateurs.

No, You Can't Beat An NBA Player One-On-One | Brian Scalabrine on Amateurs Challenging Him

"I'm way closer to LeBron than you are to me."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3zQoy6lL2Y

It's no different than photography... Anyone can take that once in a lifetime shot that is as good as any pro, and many of us have, and some of more than once. But only the best pro's take that once in a lifetime shot every time they go out to shoot, which is what they're paid to do...

This is also very true in chess. Hikaru Nakamura has a channel where he sometimes plays normal humans, he absolutely destroys them. Also does game analysis of grandmaster games from tournaments, the speed his mind works at is about 10 times faster than mine. I keep thinking - so that's what it takes to play chess at that level. A whole different order of brainpower than I have.

Mike,

I was a reasonably competitive tennis player in college (not Div 1). I got to attend an indoor tourney in Philadelphia and was nearly court level watching the women play (and we're talking early 80s). I figured the only way I would get a point off of them is a miss hit from them or a very lucky shot from me. The men? Half the time, I'm not sure I would have been able to get to the ball (and I moved pretty well in the day).

Completely different level. But now that I'm 62, yeah, I could probably get a couple games off of Jokavic... (that's what we call 'dementia'...)

I took a good photo once.

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