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Thursday, 28 July 2022

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I've yet to use a Sony camera that didn't make me love my Nikons more - great output, frustrating operation. I'll forgive the RX-100 series, barely, simply because the utility outweighs the frustration most days, and more frustrating in that Sony has shown they CAN design good interfaces in other products.

When you said: "The build quality was first rate, a far cry from the high-value but budget build of the original A6000", didn't you mean high-price?

IMHO Sony are not really a camera company. They are a consumer electronics company that make excellent sensors but cameras - probably designed by electronics engineers, certainly not photographers. Stick with Fujifilm or Nikon, maybe even Canon.

Others merchants took advantage (or had to because of labor and material shortages) of the pandemic to look at their product mixes and drop items that didn't help the bottom line much.

"The A6600 was the latest in the A6xxx product line, with a larger battery, top-level features"

"Top-level features" isn't really accurate: it essentially re-used the A6500 sensor, and didn't move forward to a version of the (Sony) sensor that went in Fuji's X-T3 and X-T4.

For whatever reason, Sony wasn't willing to use the Sony sensor that went in Fuji's APS-C cameras, which enabled lower rolling shutter and other features.

[How do you know what sensor is used in the X-T3 and X-T4? I don't believe Fuji releases that information. --Mike]

I just added an A7C to my A7R3. I like the A7C a lot for its combination of FF, fast tracking and small size and weight. The lack of a front control dial doesn't bother me as I prefer barrel aperture any way. Re any discontinuance of the A7C. This seems odd as Sony bought out a number of excellent lenses that seemed to have the 7C particulalry in mind. First was the tiny but optically impressive 28-60 that is perfect as a walk around travel with the 7C. Then in 2021 aresony brought out the small prime trio of 24, 40 and 50mm primes, all with barrel aperture control. This looked to me as though Sony was taking on the APS-C rivals with a similarly sized FF. If the 7C is indeed discontinued, I for one will be very disappointed.

"Nikon schooled everybody with its Z series, which look goofy but feel great in the hand and ergonomically put the needs of the operator-photographer foremost." I beg to differ... I much prefer the feel of my now vintage D700 to my Z6 in hand, but the mirrorless Z6 is slowing winning me over because of its live view. Verses the image being mirrored up to the prism on my D700.

I don't think a6600 sales have met Sony expectations so it was a surprise when the company released the excellent 16-55mm G lens. But for both, the price is close to $2800.00, beyond what many believe an APS-C kit should cost. Well, the lens is suggestive that Sony may have something in the wings.

I don't know if the sensor is the same as in the 6500, but to my eyes and especially at ISO 100 the 6600 has better latitude, verified by photonstophotos.net:

https://photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#Sony%20ILCE-6500,Sony%20ILCE-6600

A7C production was restarted awhile ago:

https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sony-will-resume-a7c-and-zv-10-orders/

Was seriously tempted to get one a couple of years ago, but in the end, I opted for the A7R4's 61 megapixels + no AA filter instead, and I'd say that decision has worked out nicely.

What Bob Johnston said.

Also, for "regular folks" (i.e., you and me) Sony, farms out service and repair to a third-party.

Canon, Nikon, and Fujfilm all have their own in-house service and support facilities in North America.

When I was working as a DFSS MBB (Master Black Belt) I used to teach a principle called "Design for X" Design for X is about the "-ilities".

You know, stuff like: Reliability, Durability, Serviceability, Repairability, (Parts Availab)ility, etc.

Design for X is not sexy or glamorous; you won't find any of the multitude of YouTube reviewers discussing "Mean Time to Failure" for durbability for a shutter mech. B

ut in the REAL WORLD, where we all ive and work, it's very important.

You want to buy cameras from companies that have this DOWN. In my experience, Canon, Fujifilm, and Nikon all do a very good job of this.

Sony, OTOH, has one of the worst records for Design for X and their Service and Support infrastructure. This view is exactly because of what Bob said, Sony is a consumer products company; their view is Can you say "Betamax"? "MiniDisc"? Oh, BTW, Sony just discontinued their A-mount lenses in February of this year. How about that for leaving customers in the lurch?

'Nuff said.

I grabbed an a6600 when production was suspended in 2021 - I have an a6500, and the battery life and some autofocus quirks always annoyed me a bit. The a6600, for me, was a substantial improvement.

I just picked up the (dirt cheap) Sigma 18-50 f/2.8 Contemporary - I didn’t have two zooms in that range, and if my wife and I were taking a camera to different events it was a hassle. I’m shocked at how good that Sigma lens is. Miss the range of the Sony 16-70 f/4 a bit, but the color and sharpness of the Sigma is (at least to my eye) superior.

"[How do you know what sensor is used in the X-T3 and X-T4? I don't believe Fuji releases that information. --Mike]"

Manufacturers release megapixel count, measured rolling shutter levels, and the like publicly: https://www.dpreview.com/news/5471659816/fujifilm-x-t3-makes-waves-with-a-26mp-x-trans-sensor-and-4k-60p-video. If that's not enough, people then link them up to sensor spec sheets, though I don't keep track of those because they're not relevant to me.

Been tempted by a few Sony cameras over the years, but when decisions were ultimately made and money was spent, I always ended up sticking with either Canon or Panasonic.

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