As I was thinking about the previous post, it struck my brain like a whack upside the head. It's well known that one of the reasons for the "churn," i.e., the constant introduction of new products, is because that's how manufacturers get attention from influencers (free independent marketers and informational channels) for their products. New releases, even if they're just warm-overs, get all kinds of attention. Then the attention dies down, the product just sits there in the product line, and sales dwindle. The only way to heat things up again is to "update" the product with a new version, a replacement of some sort, which starts the process over again.
But why not periodically have introduction-type marketing campaigns for old products? It's what Fuji appears to be experimenting with with its new page for the old fast 35mm.
Think about it. A company picks a product that's been sitting quietly in its product portfolio for years and is now selling modestly, but that's still perfectly good. And they do a whole new marketing job for that old product. Send out press releases. Let it be known that review copies are available. Find photographers who use the product and showcase their work and quote their opinions (Fuji has done just that in its new marketing page for the old 35mm ƒ/1.4 R). Provide more information about the product's development and performance. Create new web pages for it and tout its features and benefits anew.
It would be like the churn but without the actual churning.
Why wouldn't it work almost as well as introducing a new product?
Because in reality, we must admit, many existing products are perfectly fine just the way they are. Their only problem is that they aren't getting any attention.
I don't know, but I think Fuji might be on to something here.I wonder if other manufacturers will follow suit?
Of course it would depend on if it actually worked. I'm not in a position to guess that.
Mike
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Kye Wood: "Ya know when they get something bang on perfectly executed, like a year 2000 Honda Euro. It's optimal. Any change has to make it less good. But...they go and change it anyway. Trading off the former exemplar's perfection to flog something that is now made worse by change. Humans do like our shiny shiny new things, sadly. Makes being a curmudgeonly Luddite something of a virtue."
Mike replies: It's like a golf swing. A golf swing is a very complicated motion. It takes training, coordination, rhythm and timing to get it right. So what happens on those rare occasions when everything comes together and a golfer gets it just right?
My brother tells a story of an old groundsman who was walking along a row of tees at the practice range. One golfer, bursting with confidence and enthusiasm, exclaimed, "This is it! This is perfect! I've finally got it!" The passing groundsman, without looking up, sighs and mumbles, "Not for long."
All I can say is that whenever everything came together for me and I managed to "pure" a series of shots at the range, I would never think, now I need to keep doing it just like that. No. What would always happen is that I'd still try to improve it. I'd think, this is perfect, now I'll hit it just a little harder. Or, this is perfect, now I'll just follow through more. Inevitably, my swing would disintegrate again, and I'd be back where I started before I knew it.
And it's not just duffers like me. A golfer my age from Hertfordshire in England, Nick Faldo, won not one but three Masters Championships, was world number one for 97 weeks, and got knighted for his accomplishments. You think his swing was good enough for him? No. He continued to mess with it.
And so it goes.
Thom Hogan: "What you describe is 'marketing.' Oh, and 'customer engagement.' Plenty of companies do just what you describe, just not really any of the camera companies. I've never understood, for instance, why if a camera company sees you as a camera owner (registered serial number), they're not using on-going marketing to make you aware of lenses and accessories that work with your camera. I get such emails from Toyota all the time (service, accessories, add-ons)."
I "Self Churn". Shoot a job with a Sony A700 with either a Sigma 30mm F1.4 or a Sigma 70mm F2.8, or my Sony A900 with a Sony 85mm F2.8...See it printed 60"x40"and hanging in a retail store,(Pre-Covid) or see it on the Web for their E-commerce. My last camera was purchased in 2014. (olympus EM1) I only see the need for new stuff if you need museum quality printed big. Challenge yourself, use what you have. Use the money for that large format printer. Buy some good wine. Give to the local food bank.
Posted by: Fred Tuman | Monday, 17 August 2020 at 11:48 AM
It looks like this churning of a product is the same as buttering up the product.
Posted by: Herman Krieger | Monday, 17 August 2020 at 11:52 AM
I would argue that this is exactly Leica's strategy with special editions: take a product that has been out for a few years, and won't be replaced for a few more, and promote it across the internet.
Posted by: Bernard | Monday, 17 August 2020 at 12:31 PM
I think it's a wonderful idea to promote products already available and still perfectly good to use. It's what all the camera makers once did. Nikon, Canon, Olympus, Pentax, Minolta all kept products available for years and continued to promote them. It gives a warm, fuzzy feeling to know your gear is still important.
Or does it?
My preference would be incremental small changes in products without a complete overhaul and model change. Like Nikon did with all the F2 and F3 models over the years, making them better but not reinventing the wheel.
Posted by: Dogman | Monday, 17 August 2020 at 01:41 PM
I recently bought a Ricoh GR III, which has been out for 18 months or so. Shortly after I bought it, the "street" version came out which sports a shiny yellow lens ring, a new finish on the body and added focus feature among a few other differences. It's a nice looking camera in my opinion but I wouldn't pay the extra they want for these features. I think they have released special editions for awhile now, so maybe Fuji is taking a page out of Ricoh's book.
Posted by: Jim Meeks | Monday, 17 August 2020 at 01:46 PM
I appreciate how this might speak to a consumer who's trying to consume less: "unbox" an old favorite.
Posted by: David R. | Monday, 17 August 2020 at 01:53 PM
Ahhhh....marketing! The art to sell you something, you did not need.
Posted by: Heinz Danzberger | Monday, 17 August 2020 at 02:17 PM
Leica did that for decades didn’t they?
Posted by: hugh crawford | Monday, 17 August 2020 at 03:26 PM
I'm sure this is not unique, Canon routinely sends out (Especially Canon Europe, profiles of Photographers, or features about techniques where they feature Photographic work and particular Products like a lens or a flash or a Body / Lens combination. I find it very refreshing that they don't only feature the latest gear. I agree with you that it is a very effective way to get people thinking about both your products and the enjoyment of Photography. Ive seen articles from getting better after school soccer pictures to how to shoot motor racing or lifestyle portraits. While not exactly what you are talking about it is in the same vein.
Posted by: Michael J. Perini | Monday, 17 August 2020 at 05:06 PM
Agreed, this is a refreshingly honest and gimmick-free way to keep selling a good product, and--perhaps more importantly--to justify keeping it in production and actively supported.
It's a little dismaying that this approach is so novel that people flummoxed, or are mistaking it for a gimmick. (Well, maybe the novelty alone makes it technically a gimmick?) But those who know the lens seem to agree that it really does continue to kick major butt, years after its introduction.
So, yes, why not take a victory lap? It seems that Fuji has every right to crow, gloat, beam, whatever. And on the other hand it's a welcome departure from the often cynical and exhausting product update rat-race. "Churn" is a good word for it. I'm sure the current state of economic uncertainty was a motivation, but I, too, hope the approach catches on.
Posted by: robert e | Monday, 17 August 2020 at 05:15 PM
The only problem with this strategy is with a new product, you have no choice but to buy new and put money in the manufacturer's coffers. With an older product, a lot of people will just buy used copies.
Posted by: Stephen S. | Tuesday, 18 August 2020 at 12:39 AM
Leica, with its LHSA repackagings of older classic lenses, might be an example. Many would agree that these lenses are fine just the way they are, and still others want to go back to earlier versions...
Posted by: scott kirkpatrick | Tuesday, 18 August 2020 at 03:25 AM
New web pages, updated packaging, special marketing campaign - for the 'New' Classic Line!
Of course, it does depend on having more than one lens that's considered a 'classic'...
Posted by: SteveAitch | Tuesday, 18 August 2020 at 05:01 AM
I had that 35/1.4 on my "to sell" list, but now I'm having second thoughts. I think you're onto something here.
Posted by: Neal Elward | Tuesday, 18 August 2020 at 07:45 AM
Maybe because there is a lot of internet chatter about newly-introduced fast lenses of Chinese origin for Leica M and other cameras. Fuji reminds us they have a high quality lens of that specification too!
Posted by: Rick in CO | Tuesday, 18 August 2020 at 09:47 AM
Mike,
This post also nicely ties in with your recent post, "Sunday Support Group for Earthlings: Wise Man (OT)", aka The Story of More.
Posted by: Dave | Tuesday, 18 August 2020 at 11:02 AM
I hope other manufacturers do follow suit, Mike. The constant flow of new models can be counter-productive e.g. when they get a camera (or a car) just right - and then it is 'improved' - and the sparkle or whatever it was of the 'old' model just isn't there anymore.
Much better to market a product as so good it doesn't need to be changed.
Posted by: Mike | Tuesday, 18 August 2020 at 12:17 PM
It’s even worse with computers. Apple this year updated a couple of the laptop lines: the MacBook Air and the MacBook Pro. The Pro refresh was especially interesting. The lower two (of four) models were essentially the same as Last year’s model: same processor, same screen, same design. There were two significant changes: a) the keyboard was changed, and b) the base specification had twice the amount of storage for the same money. So little real difference, in ways that would matter: the new machines would complete computing tasks at the same speed as the previous year’s machines.
But, oh, you should have seen the number of YouTube videos. First there were the ones announcing the upgrades; then there were the Unboxing videos (when did taking something out of its packaging become a thing?); then the reviews to roundly criticise the lower-spec’d versions because they were no improvement at all; followed by the videos extolling the virtues of the better-spec’d machines, and whether or not they needed even further options adding; then the revisionist videos arguing that the lower-spec’d versions *were* worth buying because with the larger storage they were a much better deal than last year’s; then the videos arguing that you might as well keep using last year’s machines unless you were doing such-and-such tasks, professionally, in which case the new machines were an excellent buy; then the videos showing how you could upgrade machines from 6 years ago to be - well, not as good, but not too bad, and excellent value for money; then the videos arguing that there were Windows laptops from various manufacturers that were at least as good and cheaper; and so on, for a couple of months.
For Apple, the whole thing must have been well worth the minimal cost of the upgrades in marketing terms.
Posted by: Tom Burke | Tuesday, 18 August 2020 at 02:33 PM
Ha. I was surprised to learn how long I’ve had this lens (2006!). Like many of its prime peers in the X lineup it’s light, small, and optically terrific. It’s a great value if you’re a prime-style photographer.
Fuji’s campaign, I would argue, is not “marketing” so much as it’s just plain ol’ advertising. “Marketing” is more of a strategic plan for promotion. Advertising is a tactical component of marketing.
Also, realize that there’s nothing unusual at all about Fuji advertising one of their older products. Those of us who have followed the digital photography tsunami are accustomed to every ad representing a brand-new product or line. But those times are mostly over. The wave has washed over us. The great majority of advertising budgets are devoted towards simply REMINDING consumers about existing products, which is exactly what this Fuji promo is doing.
“Mmmmm, hot day, isn’t it? Wouldn’t a nice, cool little 35mm lens look great right now?
Posted by: Kenneth Tanaka | Tuesday, 18 August 2020 at 05:17 PM
If this is “churn”, then what might one call the rate at which Mr Tuck acquires and disposes of gear, both new and used? ;~)
[Froth? Wait, that has different connotations...
Actually Kirk is just engaged in sober and serious investigation, trial, and testing. --Mike]
Posted by: Not THAT Ross Cameron | Tuesday, 18 August 2020 at 11:07 PM
If a company still makes something, why would advetising it seem unusual to anyone? Any number of companies advertise the products they make. It should, in truth, seem bizarre for a company to not advertise something in its product line, shouldn't it? Why would any sane company not do that?
Posted by: Andrew Sheppard | Wednesday, 19 August 2020 at 10:24 AM
It's about selling into a saturated market. That's hard unless you can make consumers dissatisfied with their current product e.g. telling them it's out of fashion or the new model has "super new" features (8-bladed lubricated massaging razors anyone?).
The UK govt under pressure from the motor industry many decades ago put a year of registration on number plates so people would trade in perfectly good cars for new ones to keep up with the Joneses.
The other way to sell is if your product falls apart after a few years and needs replacing. I'm not saying anyone does built-in obsolescence on purpose but often the pressure to keep costs down - especially in price sensitive market areas such as the budget end of product ranges - means materials and build quality are not top notch (and that's often fine, there's a place for such products). White goods for example are not built to last.
In many areas technology does genuinely move on and many products of only a few years ago have been superceded by genuinely improved or different technology. But not razors.
Posted by: Rick | Wednesday, 19 August 2020 at 05:45 PM
Ironically, the Fuji 35mm f/1.4 is definitely one of the lenses that could use an update, the AF motors on that lens are terrible.
Posted by: Eddie | Thursday, 20 August 2020 at 09:29 AM