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Tuesday, 08 October 2019

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>>Some people hate them (not sure why)

One reason people like myself don't care for them is that, as clearly shown in your example photo, flip-out screens hang from the left side of the camera, away from the vertical axis of the lens. This makes aiming the camera less quick and intuitive for street or action shooting. A flip-out screen also makes the camera wider than it would otherwise be and affects handling. I could still happily shoot with the EOS RP if I had to, of course; I just wouldn't be a fan of the screen.

I am not a brand fanboy; many of my friends use many different brands to make superb images. They use everything from film, to all the major digital brands and formats. I use what works for me. But this article has so many caveats, it is almost an apologia for Canon. The author seems to want desperately to justify his choice.

James: I am not a Canon guy, so I don't have a dog in the fight as to whether a particular Canon model succeeds or fails. That said, I read through your article with a sense that your review winds up damning this model by faint praise, although that clearly was not your intent. Why make such a comment (I mean, why bother to weigh in) if that's my impression?

I think that camera manufacturers -- and Canon is particularly guilty of this -- have boxed themselves into a bad corner. They have turned their business into one that is more like fashion (see the new models! whoo!) rather than one centered around durability and occasional innovation. The result has been market saturation with incrementally similar, functionally identical, models even as their overall market has been shrinking.

The best thing about this camera is, apparently, that it handles nicely. But surely that is true for all cameras that photographers live with for enough time. I fear that the sort of design incrementalism that this camera highlights will hasten the collapse of the "camera" as a dedicated picture taking instrument.

Apologies for the negative response. Feeelin' grumpy today.

Nice post, beautiful picture.
I 2007 I was at PhotoPlus in NY and I had one of the early 1Ds mkIII’s on my shoulder. A gentleman in a suit and Canon badge approached and asked how I liked the camera. I was over the moon with the camera then, and still love it, even though I have a newer 5D4. I started to ask a technical question about the sensor just as some other Canon folk came to get him, he put them off and said here is my card , I’ll answer any questions you have , but I have to go with these folks .he said we are very proud of the pictures these cameras make, my advice is worry less about numbers and go take pictures of real stuff. If you ever feel the sensor comes up short, call me.
It was Chuck Westfall , I never felt the need to call.

I have the impression that the impression of the EOS RP is mostly positive due to its ergonomics and being a fairly capable camera for the price. That said, this review reads very much like a review for people who use Canon and intend to continue using Canon; competition is very tough right now and it makes sense to look at what the two competitors in this space are doing. Because of that, I really don't see this as a camera to recommend to someone not already invested in Canon: only three very basic affordable lenses available, no IBIS, video limitations and really nothing standing out compared to the competition.

I'm also going to be cynical and say that after Canon gets IBIS and users have had a chance to familiarize themselves with it, they're going to consider it an essential feature. I've been using IBIS for years, do a lot of hand held shooting and it's simply a key feature for me these days.

I love the flippy touch screen, not enough to switch back from Sony but hope Sony comes to their senses and offers it soon. A leaf shutter lens would expeditiously suck the money from my wallet too if anyone reading this in a position to make that happen.

Talking about the "Right Price" in the article, a Sony A7r II with the Sigma MC-11 adapter would be a better and economic choice switching from a Canon DSLR to a mirrorless body. Or APS-C with Fujifilm as Mark Kinsman stated above if 26 megapixel are enough.

Unless you have some VERY specific needs (someone who shoots F1 races and actually uses 60 fps and autofocus), I’d say that the most important feature of a camera is good ergonomics.

All cameras and lenses from the major players are good enough for most uses, but a camera that’s comfortable enough so you can hold it and shoot with it for a whole day without even notice it happens once in a lifetime.

I am an engineer and I have always hated it that Canon intentionally cripples it’s low-mid level cameras in some respects so that they don’t eat into their top models. Other companies seem to make as good as they can at a given price point.

Call me superficial, but the industrial design of a product can greatly influence whether I am drawn to it or not. Which in this case..is flat out disastrous looking.

Given the camera's small size, and the fact that formerly astronomical ISOs are now normal, a small, very sharp 50mm f2 seems like a no brainer.
But they probably won't make it, because not enuff bokeh for the commenters on Dpreview.

I feel like this review needs a part 2. I was hoping to read about what it was like for James to be doing his usual portrait & architecture work while looking through a completely different viewfinder. Is the EVF a help or a hindrance? Did it take long to get used to? The improvements in focusing was interesting to read about. Overall was the new mirrorless sysatem good enough for him to consider switching over from SLR? I'm interested because I'm pretty much in that position - a long term Canon SLR person who is now intrigued by this affordably priced RP. But I could also spend that money on a new lens.

"Oh no, there aren't any cheap lenses for it"...

Don't need them. 35/1.8RF on the camera. EF50/1.8stm and EF85/1.8 with Canon adapters. Work as if they were made for the camera.

I like using my RP with Leica M lenses. Smaller that my Olympus. Very easy to manually focus and the EVF shows exposure better than the meter.

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