Fuji X-H1 with XF 35mm ƒ/1.4 (52mm-e)
I've been off trying some more of these Fuji lenses.
For a while there I thought I had a new favorite lens...I tried the new-to-me (but old, almost legacy at this point) Fujifilm XF 35mm ƒ/1.4, and I liked it almost instantly. This isn't too surprising, as it's a modified Planar-type but without the cemented flat surfaces between 4 and 5 that I usually associate with less appealing out-of-focus blur (bokeh). The lens is small and light—barely heavier than the XF 35mm ƒ/2 which I also own—and has a compact lens hood, and makes a very nice combination mounted on the X-H1.
I've used many, many 50mm's (or their equivalents) over the years and don't like very many of them. It's difficult to find a good 50mm(-e). They're typically flawed in some way or another—some have flare or odd ghosting that shows up in certain situations but not others, some render highlights harshly, some have curvature of field that most people can't see in pictures but I can, some have a sort of cold analytical look. Et cetera. I've seen it all. Most have problems at least somewhere with bokeh. My favorites historically (on B&W film!) have been the seven-element Pentax ƒ/1.4's from the Super-Takumar to the SCMP-FA, the OM Zuiko 50mm ƒ/2 Macro, and the 55mm-filter 50mm Leica Summilux-R among others. Have I used 50 50's? Possibly. Am I a completely over-the-top, hopeless, OCD-afflicted connoisseur? Yep. Or at least I was.
It doesn't take me long to get a handle on a lens for myself. It takes longer to put a lens through its paces in order to present review conclusions formally to others, but I've been doing this so long and I know these designs so well that, for my own satisfaction, I can almost intuit what's going on with a lens after a relatively short trial.
The Fuji XF 35mm ƒ/1.4 is gaaaaah. First of all it's got that typical Planar-type variation between the open apertures (ƒ/1.4–ƒ/2.8) and the optimum apertures (ƒ/4–ƒ/8 in this case). The open apertures retain some classic softness in the corners that I think improves pictures taken in "available darkness," the very situations in which you want to use open apertures. Most reviewers treat that like a bug but to me it's a feature. Stopped down it's magnificently sharp—not that razory, analytical, flat, hard, wiry sharpness people are impressed by these days, but the full-bodied, dimensional sharpness you get from lenses with good large-structure contrast and exceptional coatings. In character, this lens most resembles an excellent older Zeiss. I just love it when you're looking at a picture of a thing and your brain can suddenly shift from looking at the properties of the image to the properties of the thing, or the light.
I usually press Mr. Handsome into service as a test-shot model, which is ironic as he actually doesn't like having his picture taken and is uncooperative. The whole file of this picture shows the classic technical beauty of the Planar-type. The Fuji XF 35mm ƒ/1.4 is a very beautiful lens. This could have been made with a Zeiss Contarex lens.
100% detail
It does have some distinct problems in the bokeh, typical of what I associate with single aspheric-element lenses, which this is. With high-contrast objects in the out-of-d.o.f. background, wide apertures at middle focus distances create distinctly ugly, "sick to your stomach" bokeh (anata no i ni byōki bo-ke). (That translation was a joke, son. I take full personal responsibility for all my zany descriptors of bokeh.) Yet the bokeh with softer contrast in the out-of-d.o.f areas and the focus set close is very nice. This is manageable, because you usually want the bokeh to be best when the focus is set close, but it's something you need to know when shooting with this lens. By the way, the modern hobbyist tendency to shoot everything wide open for "maximum bokeh" is mere depravity to any lens connoisseur. Ugh. "Depravity" is way too strong a word, but then, it's an exaggerated sentiment. Heh.
(100% detail after you click on it.) The bokeh shows some distinct bright-ring effects at ƒ/2.8 with the focus set to a middle distance and with a high contrast background. But then, why would anyone shoot a scenic in midday sunlight at ƒ/2.8 anyway?
At the same aperture, but focusing close and with a nearer and less contrasty background, the 35mm ƒ/1.4's bokeh behaves just like a Planar's—smooth but with just a little "interest." Nice. (This is the whole frame.)
So I thought, yeah. This is my lens. I can see why other people can't handle it—can't deploy it properly—but I can. I like a lens that fights back a little, that you have to get to know, that reveals its glories to those who understand it. I started thinking things like, this is the last of my Fuji lenses I would sell; I could do a OC/OL/OY project with this without any problem; etc., etc.
Could be a flaw in the ointment though
Then I started comparing it to the ƒ/2 lens...a lens I have owned for a while and had already decided I don't like very much. And...
...Well, objectively, when I take my connoisseur's [tinfoil] hat off and pretend I'm a normal reasonable human and compare one to the other, there's really...not a whole lot of difference. It's funny, but when you start writing about lenses and talking about this and this property and that quality, it's easy to think that there are huge differences in lenses...when actually, sometimes those differences are exceedingly small. Put up two pictures taken under controlled conditions, look at them next to each other, letting your eyes go back and forth, back and forth, and sometimes...well, there could be a little difference, but the difference doesn't make a difference, if ye ken.
Hmm. Anyway, this matter is going to require more study.
(After I wrote that, I went around the neighborhood and took two dozen pictures twice, once with each lens. I will say this for these lenses: as I switched back and forth, the lens I wasn't using could be temporarily stashed in the top pocket of my shirt when I didn't have it on the camera. Take that, users of this or this.)
One thing I will say, is that the operability of the newer ƒ/2 lens is much better. It doesn't focus all that much more quickly, but it does it with a modern whisper-quietness, and you're not really aware of it when it momentarily "hunts" or adjusts. The older lens seems to work with all the speed of a tall ship coming about into the wind—a great clanking of the wheel, cries from the deck commanders, minions clambering about the foretop, the spanker tugging her stern around into the wind's eye*. Clank, whir, grind, along with seemingly less than fully coordinated movements (the newer lens has internal focus and nothing visibly moves). The 35mm ƒ/1.4's AF is very '90s-ish in sound and gestalt. I really don't think the faster lens is that much slower to focus—a little, probably—it's just that it's louder and grinds and buzzes more and when it adjusts focus with a little secondary zup sound you're more aware of it, so that it seems more labored. Add the weather sealing and lower price of the XF 35mm ƒ/2 "Fujicron" and it becomes tough to prefer the older, faster lens.
Except I still do.
For now. More OCD perseverating to come**, once I get to those comparison pictures I just took.
Mike
(Thanks to JB)
*I can think of a forum where I'd get a very serious reply stating, "You don't know what you're talking about, the 35mm ƒ/1.4 sounds nothing like a square-rigged Napoleonic War frigate. How can we believe anything you say when you don't even know that?"
**But don't hold your breath waiting or you'll turn blue and and die.
Footnote: "flaw in the ointment" is a joke, son, a joke ah say. It's fly in the ointment.
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Bill: "I love that lens. Use it for 90% of my shots. I’ve had it since there were only four Fuji X lenses and never really tried the 35mm ƒ/2 (but I do have the 23mm and 50mm so I know they are 'smoother.' Since I have it, it is unlikely I will ever get the Fujicron; ignorance is bliss. I don’t like the way it grinds when focusing but loooove the way it renders. Enjoy it and the other; look forward to hearing how you feel down the road since you have the luxury of owning both."
Matt: "I have used both and in AFC mode or in eye-detect mode the XF 35mm ƒ/2 is much more reliable than ƒ/1.4. Even on the X-T2 and even with fw updates the ƒ/1.4 is lagging far behind. For stills or semi-stills it does not matter, but for action with continuous focus the ƒ/1.4 is a frustration. No matter how good the lens is, if it cannot nail focus, it's a liability. Therefore I do not follow the public love and adoration for the original 35mm ƒ/1.4. In terms of haptics I agree that the XF 35mm ƒ/2 feels more solid."
Christopher May: "Re '...Well, objectively, when I take my connoisseur's [tinfoil] hat off and pretend I'm a normal reasonable human and compare one to the other, there's really...not a whole lot of difference.' This reminded me of an article I read one time called 'The 50mm Lens and Metaphysical Doubt.' ;-) What's really funny about that article, this article and the seemingly infinite Internet lens discussion is that I understand and appreciate both sides of the whole lens connoisseur debate. I listen to the Classic Lenses Podcast where Simon, Johnny, Perry, the late Karl (may he rest in peace) and a host of guests can wax poetic about this characteristic or that look from some esoteric lens for hours. I like it. I enjoy it. But I also don't find myself going out and picking up every lens mentioned on the show. And sometimes I'm just plain backwards to prevailing sentiment. The old Sonnar version of the Nikkor 105mm ƒ/2.5 is all the rage among classic lens users. My humble Gauss version seems to get no love. The funny thing is, though, that it (and the rest of my relatively humble lens arsenal) produce results that I like even if they're not the latest and greatest or even the oldest and the coolest. I just like taking pictures with what I have. It's still fun to read this post and see echoes of both sides of the debate from your comparison of the Fujicron and the Fujiplanar. And if nothing else, it's got to be a unique opportunity to see one manufacturer manage to create a sort of Leica homage and a sort of Zeiss homage in the same lens lineup!"
"First of all it's got that typical Planar-type variation between the open apertures (ƒ/1.4–ƒ/2.8) and the optimum apertures (ƒ/4–ƒ/8 in this case). The open apertures retain some classic softness in the corners that I think improves pictures taken in "available darkness," the very situations in which you want to use open apertures. Stopped down it's magnificently sharp—not that razory, analytical, flat, hard, wiry sharpness people are impressed by these days, but the full-bodied, dimensional sharpness you get from lenses with good large-structure contrast and exceptional coatings." --MJ
You have described as well as I've read it being described why I love the Nikkor 58mm f/1.4G (which is glued permanently to a D750). It took me awhile to learn this lens, and I'm still learning as I go, but either by accident or intention it makes images that make me smile.
The one thing with the 58mm, no issues with bokeh (at least that I can see, I'm no expert), but I'm gratified to hear it's quite okay for me to be shooting in the f/4-f/11 range, which I frequently find myself doing. I've been of a mind that it's two lenses in one, and you've explained why.
The 58mm also gets a lot of criticism online regarding sharpness wide open, but I have no complaint.
Posted by: SteveW | Thursday, 15 August 2019 at 11:08 AM
I actually DID do an OCOLOY with this lens (on an X-E1):
https://blog.andyf.me/tag/ocoloy/page/3/
Didn't like it at first, love it now, apart from its tendency to produce giant faint red flares that cover half the frame sometimes.
Posted by: Andy Farrell | Thursday, 15 August 2019 at 11:09 AM
I bought the Fuji 35 f/1.4 when I got an X-E1 a long time ago. Very nice lens but I always found the focus annoyingly slow and missed a lot of shots with it. Later got a Pro2 and really got sick of the 35 f1.4's focus issues and sold it for what I paid for it on the Fred Mirnada site. Bought the 35 f2 in silver as I now had a X-T2 in graphite (at this point I had destroyed my Pro2 with a beer spill, but that is another story) and they look great together. I have had a few people ask me about my film camera as that camera and lens pairing looks very old school. Long after I sold the f1.4 Fuji released a FW update for that lens and a lot of folks say that it focuses a lot better (sigh). However I like the f2 on the X-T2 a lot. It feels perfect on it and the focus is very snappy. Can't see going back to the f1.4.
Posted by: Zack Schindler | Thursday, 15 August 2019 at 11:11 AM
I've owned and used both these lenses--traded the f 1.4 for the f 2.0 because it's size made more sense with the X-Pro series. Combing through Lightroom now for example images, I see ones I like a lot from both lenses, including some with lovely Bokeh. That said, there's nothing that absolutely blows me away Bokeh-wise, like that of the Canon 35 1.4. That is a lens I loved dearly, but I am years out of the Canon system.
Posted by: Bill Poole | Thursday, 15 August 2019 at 11:17 AM
I occasionally get an Earworm.
My baby does the hokeh bokeh
My baby does the hokeh bokeh
My baby does the hokeh bokeh
The only cure I've found is f/8.
Posted by: c.d.embrey | Thursday, 15 August 2019 at 11:26 AM
OKay, this makes me deeply pleased, as the 35 1.4 is my second favorite Fuji lens(the 16 1.4 still blows me away just a tad more). The 35 + the in camera stabilization makes for a wonderful tool - it's a great One Lens, One Camera combo but as you pointed out, Fuji glass is small enough that's there's not so much a need to over minimize. It definitely feels closer in form to old Nikkor 35/2 AF or Canon 50 1.8 EF version 1, but that's not a horrible thing.
Posted by: Rob L. | Thursday, 15 August 2019 at 11:29 AM
I've only ever had the XF 35mm f/2. The moment I put that lens on my XE-2 I was in love. (It was one of my first Fuji lenses.) But the public love and adoration for the original 35mm f/1.4 has always called to me. Every now and then I try to convince myself to buy a copy and give it a try, but I never do. And your post...didn't help me at all. :o)
Posted by: Brandon Price | Thursday, 15 August 2019 at 11:50 AM
You must have been reading my mind. I was wondering whether you would post any photo examples. As enjoyable and entertaining as your prose my be, even a few examples from your everyday surroundings are better than no examples at all. Thank you for adding icing to the cake.
Posted by: Gordon Lewis | Thursday, 15 August 2019 at 01:08 PM
I feel you on the normal lens addiction. I have an older film Leica and have been picking up off brand and older 50mm lenses just because I am interested in the differences between them. Gah. I probably have 6 or 7 of them and I react with GAS whenever I see one.
It's tough when you find your "home" focal length.
Posted by: Doug Doyle | Thursday, 15 August 2019 at 01:08 PM
So, your dream lens would be the lens equivalent of a classic Porsche 911?
I can understand that.
Posted by: Kalli | Thursday, 15 August 2019 at 01:28 PM
Mike, it sounds like you really like the venerable 50 1.4 Takumar. Did you prefer it to the 55 1.8 for any particular reasons? OK, I may need to find a clean example of the 1.4 because I still use a 1971 vintage Spotmatic occasionally.
[Oh, to shoot with a Spotmatic and not own a Super-Multi-Coated Takumar is a travesty. They're not expensive. Just get one, then you'll have it. --Mike]
Posted by: Kodachromeguy | Thursday, 15 August 2019 at 01:56 PM
I also liked the packaging of the f2 better, as well as the quiet focusing. But I preferred the rendering and optics of the 1.4. As you said it's like having two lenses in one. So in the end I kept the 1.4. Which is basically the only lens I use.
And I am happy that I don't do video as you have to choose between noisy focus and focus breathing. :-)
Posted by: Viktor | Thursday, 15 August 2019 at 02:50 PM
“This could have been made with a Zeiss Contarex lens.”
So Fuji is where Zeiss were in 1958?
Voltz
Posted by: V.I Voltz | Thursday, 15 August 2019 at 04:28 PM
My first Fuji lens was the 35/2. Bought it with an X-Pro1 in a package deal. Later I bought the 35/1.4 but with the XP1 it was slow and clunky. Now with the XP2 it's faster and less clunky. And the pictures from it are pretty. But I still like using the 35/2 best based on size, speed and general handling. And the pictures are also pretty. Win/win.
Posted by: Dogman | Thursday, 15 August 2019 at 05:18 PM
I hopped on that bandwagon before the XF train even left the station (I pre-ordered an X-Pro1, the 35 f/1.4 and the 18 f/2 as soon as they were announced, not normal behavior for me). The 18 is sort of "meh" in my opinion so the X-Pro1/35 f/1.4 combo stays together 98% of the time. The 35 is so pleasing to my eye that I wonder if I'll just be disappointed should I give in to the occasional temptation for the 14 or the 90.
I wouldn't mind though if it made a bit less noise. Now, thanks to Mike, I'll never hear it click-clacking away without thinking of pirate ships on the high seas!
Posted by: Kirk W. | Thursday, 15 August 2019 at 05:26 PM
It's really time for somebody to do the project where they show us a bunch of pictures taken with different lenses, otherwise identical situations and subjects, and describe the differences they see. Because I completely believe people who talk about lenses having different renderings and such (beyond gross flaws), but I'm totally useless at actually seeing it.
This was hard-to-impossible 50 years ago, but it's trivial today. I don't unfortunately have a full-frame mirrorless body, or I could just do it for myself. Also it should be better to start with lenses somebody knowledgeable in this area believes will be interesting to compare.
Of course I could compare Micro Four Thirds lenses this way for myself. Or for that matter I could compare the center portions of the frame of any lenses for myself. But for full-frame, reaching back to classic lenses seems to make this a more interesting project.
I'm not thinking of the infinite-work version of he project where one tries to include all interesting lenses. I'm thinking of the "teach people what you're seeing" version of the project where you compare a small handful of lenses, on multiple subjects, and write usefully about the results.
Somebody have the knowledge, gear, and energy? (Mike, I figure you don't have the time; but maybe if somebody who had the energy to do a starter article with a few examples asked if you'd host the article?)
Posted by: David Dyer-Bennet | Thursday, 15 August 2019 at 05:37 PM
O.T.
G9 shootout?
Posted by: crispulo | Thursday, 15 August 2019 at 05:50 PM
In 2015 out of curiosity I rented an XE2 and the 23 1.4/ 56mm 1.2 Combo. That is some sexy lens gear but the focus speed was just lame. My only other camera was at the time a Nikon D3 and even my screw drive '90's lenses crushed the Fuji for everything AF. Granted the XE2 was not the quickest and I'm confident my XPro2 is a far better beast for the older lenses but I've gone with the 'crons instead. So far a 35mm and the 50mm fill the bag. I am still drawn to the 56mm though and all these gushing reviews about the 35 1.4's "look" pull my attention. Please tell me they just aren't that different.
Posted by: Neil Swanson | Thursday, 15 August 2019 at 08:10 PM
The Foghorn Leghorn style commentary only makes it more valid... Otherwise, you’d be doing it all wrong...
Posted by: Dan Boney | Thursday, 15 August 2019 at 08:41 PM
Great article.
I feel the same about the 23/1.4, and the Zeiss 100/2 with an adapter.
BTW have you tried that ... adapters for fuji-x are cheap, and you suddenly get access almost all your old lenses. The m42 adapter is cheap, and you can shoot with the SMC tak again...
This capability was one of the reason I went mirrorless in the first place :)
Posted by: Brian O'Connor | Thursday, 15 August 2019 at 10:09 PM
When is 52mm not 52mm? When it's equivalent, of course.
Here a 52mm (e) shot, made with a 6mm iPhone Xs telephoto lens. The phone is a couple inches above the (plastic) drinking glass. FOV has nothing to do with close-focus or DOF.
Posted by: c.d.embrey | Thursday, 15 August 2019 at 10:38 PM
Mike, at one time yoe had instruction on how to post photos on TOP. Unfortunately, I looked high and low, and can not find them. Meh!
Here's the photo that was meant to be seen above https://photos.app.goo.gl/mkWhAUTNuX5w1sRg8
Posted by: c.d.embrey | Thursday, 15 August 2019 at 10:53 PM
Funny, just a couple of days ago I went shooting in the old quarters of Lisbon (Portugal) with the same combination - X-H1 and 35 f1.4. Just feels great.
Posted by: Paulo Bizarro | Friday, 16 August 2019 at 05:03 AM
The intense organic luminosity of the Fuji 35/1.4 is simply incomparable. ;)
Posted by: Rob de Loe | Friday, 16 August 2019 at 09:51 AM
I'm a total sucker for your lens endorsements, and will have to order this one. I've been enjoying an adapted Pentax 28 2.8 F on the X-H1. Very nice look and colors at medium distances, with good contrast. At infinity, sharp, but not quite up to the best modern lenses, which really doesn't matter unless I'm on the computer looking close. Also have the 28 3.5 K lens, larger, with more elements I think. Need to test that one more too. Fun stuff.
Posted by: John Krumm | Friday, 16 August 2019 at 11:05 AM
I completely agree with David Dyer-Bennet's comment. I just can't see the differences between the way each lens of the same focal length renders, beyond the very obvious. I know I like what comes from my SMC Pentax-M 50mm 1.4, while the Pentax-A f2 or the Pentacon f1.8 don't have the same effect. Why? I can't see it.
It would be great if you perhaps could show us what you see among the two fujis, and where to look for it.
Posted by: Dezessete | Friday, 16 August 2019 at 11:14 AM
I too like this lens a lot. It does take me back to my first days with a camera. I like the lens hood"s look and functionality but.... the flexIble rubber cap they provide with it can be dislodged with the breeze from a hummingbirds wing. For a camera company that pays so much attention to user interface it's a let down. The hard plastic lens cap (also supplied) can be placed on the lens with shade after a a little jiggling.
Posted by: Roy Feldman | Friday, 16 August 2019 at 11:44 AM
You know, Fuji makes a 27mm, 40mm-e. Tried that one yet? Thoughts?
Posted by: James | Saturday, 17 August 2019 at 01:45 AM
Maybe a legitimate and fulfilling side hobby to the larger hobby is lens comparisons and searching for character. Maybe you will never choose, but will enjoy the comparison and process as a legitimate passtime reserved for those that know. More like being a member of a wine appreciation club than photography club.
Posted by: Rod Thompson | Saturday, 17 August 2019 at 04:42 AM