I want to say first that I can have fun with most any camera.
I did my first serious photography project with a Kodak Instamatic 104, at Gettysburg Battlefield; I was twelve and on a seventh-grade trip to Washington, D.C. (Gettysburg was a day trip. I was mad about the Civil War in my youth.) I did an art school project with the same Instamatic 104, printing the color negatives on B&W Panalure paper. That was called "The Great Pigeon Safari," since the only requirement of the series was that each of the pictures, made around urban D.C., had to have at least one pigeon in it. I would call this project—ahem—a bit bird-brained. I had a 5x7-inch tailboard camera called "Frankencamera" that the great sensitometrist Phil Davis adapted the back for in the basement workshop of the house he built himself, mainly out of Spancrete, outside of Ann Arbor, Michigan. I've used an 8x10 Deardorff (for one single picture, just to say I'd done it), a Mamiya 6 medium-format rangefinder with all three of its lenses when it was new, a new Leica M6 and an ancient beat-to-crap Pentax Spotmatic with pieces missing from both the body and the lens. I once spent $5,500 on a camera system (RZ67) and I've taken lovely pictures with an Olympus Zuiko lens I bought for $10. I've taken pictures contentedly with both a Nikon D800 and a nearly antique 1950s Zeiss Contessa I inherited from my Aunt.
So please don't bust my chops, please. I'm just not one of those people whose identity is tied up with the camera they use. Yeah, I love cameras, but in a totally doofus-y kinda way. I'm kind of the ultimate dilettante hobbyist.
So here's my thought for today. In 2003 it seemed a little radical to buy a camera made by an "electronics giant." What, buy a camera not made by a camera company?! The idea seemed both progressive and transgressive at the same time, somehow. Of course that attitude seems quaint today. There, there, grandpa.
But as I read Curt Gerston's Featured Comment under the "Terry Burnes on Phone Photography" post, I caught myself wondering whether my camera in the future—my main camera—won't be made by Apple, Google, or Samsung.
It's not really that crazy. The reason is that I seem to visualize pictures better on the phone's viewing screen than I do using any other kind of viewfinder. I do better seeing the image in two dimensions rather than three or a virtual three.
...Except in sunlight. This is a grabshot I made a few hours ago of the rear of Birkett Mills, which makes the town where I live "America's Buckwheat Capital." I show it to you because not because it's an example of the iPhone camera succeeding, but because it's an example of the iPhone camera failing. It's a fail for two reasons: because he focal length I needed was somewhere in between the phone camera's 28mm-e and 56mm-e lenses, and the strong sunlight made it difficult to see the viewing screen. I kinda had to guess at composition.
But here's the thing: phones are a huge business these days, and cameras are one of the front-and-center flagship features of the phones. I have no idea if this is true, but I'll bet there are more camera software engineers working at Apple than there are at Canon and Nikon combined. With maybe a few more old-line manufacturers thrown in to boot.
And yet, the manufacturer's name on the grill of the truck, as well as the license plate number, are clearly visible in the file, and the color was perfect out of the camera, and so was the exposure. I'll wager it shows more detail than 35mm Tri-X and as a single exposure it was free both in terms of money and the time needed to muck around with it. And I have at least as much fun with it as I did with the little Kodak Disc camera, or the plastic pre-Holga Diana, or the Canon Xapshot still-video camera I once happily distracted myself with.
Phones are far from perfect. But 2003 was 15 years ago, and I'll bet that 15 years from now, people will be looking at legacy SLR-o-types and texting to the friend sitting next to them: srsly?
They will look about as up-to-the-minute to them as the cannons and caissons at Gettysburg seemed to my Civil-War-besotted 7th-grade self.
...And note the pigeon in the Birkett Mills picture. Some habits die real hard.
Mike
(Thanks to Curt Gerston)
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I wonder if this will come to pass. Phones are reaching a point where they are not being slavishly bought with each new iteration. As we all know, this has been bugging the camera market for a few years. Thom Hogan goes on at length about Canikon's yearly iterations that add virtually nothing. When the doldrums truly hit the smartphone market and people want a better camera, maybe they will turn once more to a......camera.
Posted by: James Weekes | Monday, 02 April 2018 at 03:39 PM
I agree that the screen makes it easier to visualize the image (screen reflections permitting) and being an old 4x5 photographer I attribute my preference to years of composing on the ground glass. OTOH I find it hard to take my phone (a MOTO Play 2) seriously as a camera. It does have zoom via the 'pinch' technique but I am used to deciding on the shutter speed, aperture, etc. for expressive control and the phone doesn't let me make those choices. Plus the FL is so incredibly short that a shallow DOF is virtually impossible. I use it if I have forgotten to bring a 'real' camera and for note taking (easier than typing stuff on the tiny keyboard) but I see no way that it will ever replace my real cameras for serious photography and I question whether photography can remain 'serious' if some future generation eliminates real cameras from image making.
Posted by: Jim Bullard | Monday, 02 April 2018 at 04:19 PM
FWIW you can pinch zoom the picture on the screen to intermediate crops and as long as it's not past the "2x" zoom level do you not get into the realm of the hated "digital cropping" mode. I think the camera does some kind of semi-intelligent synthesis with the dual images that it's capturing to get you a full resolution shot at the in-between field of view.
Of course this assumes you can see the image on the screen to get the crop you want or that you are in the mood to do such a continuous adjustment at all.
I have also been known (gasp!) to crop iPhone pictures in post. Which works pretty well actually. Esp. if you are after squares.
Posted by: psu | Monday, 02 April 2018 at 04:33 PM
Your iPhone thoughts remind be of that adage which is attributed to Th. Paine, I think, “what we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: tis' dearness only that gives everything its value…" And self-driving cars might take the fun out of "shiftin"?
Posted by: Bob Gary | Monday, 02 April 2018 at 04:58 PM
From the perspective of a photographer who once purchased, as his first accessory lens for the Asahi Pentax H2 (which replaced an Agfa Karat 36) I was using, an 83mm (yes, 83mm) f1.9 Pre-set Takumar that seemed like everything I could possibly hope for in a medium telephoto lens, I must admit that the grip with shutter release that Terry Burnes' described seemed pretty cool and I'll probably get one. Also, in this era of photography, as the owner of a Leica M9-based, CCD sensor Monochrom, used nearly every day, I have to admit that it will probably seem like a curiosity in a few years--probably already does to some folks. I love the files that it produces, but that phone is always with me and has already replaced my wristwatch, if not the MM, but some day...
Posted by: Norm | Monday, 02 April 2018 at 05:13 PM
AND there are some nify iPhone apps (such as 645pro) that produce TIFF files and allow programmable BRACKETTING. Send the resulting files into one of several HDR programs and you get results that are quite respectable.
Posted by: Ronald Frakes | Monday, 02 April 2018 at 05:31 PM
I think I remember someone saying one camera. one lens. one year. But I may be wrong ;-)
Apple and Samsung will win because of interface design. The phone makers need to make simple, no-learningcurve-needed devices for consumers. CaNiSony mainly make cameras for gearhead-fanboys who will put-up with any inconvenience–just look at camera menus if you don't believe me.
I can see a heads-up display coming in the near future ...
Posted by: cdembrey | Monday, 02 April 2018 at 05:34 PM
I have now read enough of smartphone capabilities to have a modicum of curiosity in trying them as a camera. My problem is that I don't actually have even a basic cell phone. Nor do I want one. But I am a pretty keen photographer. So now have we reached the point when I need to consider buying an iPhone for its imaging capabilities? Maybe I can turn off the phone bits.
Posted by: Peter Smith | Monday, 02 April 2018 at 06:28 PM
Here's an idea both progressive and transgressive -- start shooting video with that little phone.
Put together a 30 second or 60 second video. Apple will automagically generate a rough cut under "memories" at the bottom of the Moments screen.
That will seem quaint someday. For a 12 year old it seems quaint today.
Posted by: Speed | Monday, 02 April 2018 at 06:37 PM
You said a fail is not having a focal length between the two lenses in the camera. This is one reason I think a phone like the Samsung Galaxy K Zoom is a great idea. The Galaxy gives you a real zoom lens. Granted the maximum apertures through the zoom range are not large, but I could live with that. You also get optical image stabilization which will help a little with the smaller aperture.
This close to what would be ideal for me. A camera with a phone added.
Posted by: Mike Shwarts | Monday, 02 April 2018 at 06:52 PM
Welcome back Mike. Glad you're better.
Posted by: TBannor | Monday, 02 April 2018 at 07:22 PM
... I KNOW!
Spooky.
Posted by: Eolake | Monday, 02 April 2018 at 07:45 PM
Birkett Mills: I'd love to see that giant griddle pan in use.
In a way, you're fortunate in where the birthmark located itself. The owner of a framing shop my wife and I use has a birthmark across the right side of his face. It affected his vision. Just recently, he had his eye removed, an artificial eye inserted into the empty socket, and a hand-painted iris/pupil overlay to match his good eye installed.
I'm happy to see you back. After all, how can one be The Online Photographer offline?
[Re being lucky, yes I know. Most people who have one do have it on their face. And some people have flesh that is distorted as well as disfigured. I saw one young man--made to be a checkout clerk at a Wal-mart, definitely not a healthy job for him--whose birthmark reached up to his mouth, and his lip and face were badly distended. The anguish of thinking a girl will never like you when you are young with that kind of condition is what causes the suicides. However in this area there is a man with a birthmark over the lower half of his face including his lips and apparently he is happily married.
I really feared for the life of the young man at the Wal-mart. He seemed extremely dejected, couldn't even bring himself to make small talk. --Mike]
Posted by: MikeR | Monday, 02 April 2018 at 08:48 PM
I was fortunate to share with Goldie Hawn a great natural heart shaped birthmark, and we both touched them.. But I regress......lest we forgot we are Photographers and not image makers, we do not substutete the real thing with digital music, fake news, self drive cars, and synthetic sex dolls, we just make great photographs......the real and authentic deal.
Posted by: David Zivic | Monday, 02 April 2018 at 09:16 PM
Get back to your 8x10 roots (or root, since you only took one shot), and get the Hoodman Drone Aviator Hood for your iPhone:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1192635-REG/hoodman_hav6p_drone_aviator_hood.html
I sometimes shoot holding my iPhone with a pistol grip and the hood on - it's bit bulky, but the hand grip and hood make it really easy to see the screen and do whatever tapping I need to do. The grip also steadies the iPhone more than gripping it with my fingers.
Posted by: Paul Hawkwood | Monday, 02 April 2018 at 10:19 PM
I've had the same problem with bright light and the iPhone. I have the screen set for black and white - that seems to help. That’s in Settings: General: Accessibility: Display Accommodations: Color Filters: Grayscale. Any camera app used will still take color photos.
Posted by: Bruce McL | Monday, 02 April 2018 at 11:49 PM
Forget taking photos, forget making phone calls, We now carry a computer in our pocket that is more powerful than IBM's best, and no IT people required. You turn it on and it just works.
This year I'm buying several iDevices. And like most of the population no ILC. Cameras have been "good enough" for years. With Moore's Law still speeding along, that mini-computer you call a phone, will keep improving–not just iterating.
Posted by: cdembrey | Tuesday, 03 April 2018 at 12:57 AM
It is also interesting that several traditional camera companies, e.g. Leica and Zeiss, are partners in the camera development for smartphones: both for camera and sensors (Sony).
Posted by: Paulo Bizarro | Tuesday, 03 April 2018 at 03:54 AM
I just returned from a trip to China, where I shot 300 of my 1100 photos on the IPhone SE. There were two reasons for this: the battery on my Canon M2 would die too soon in the day, and I could smack the iPhone up to the window of the bus or train or boat and shoot without catching reflections.
Posted by: Ernie Van Veen | Tuesday, 03 April 2018 at 04:11 AM
Mike,
You have hit upon two things that resonated for me.
1. I, too, "see" better with the flat screen on the back of the camera . . . but I find it works equally well with an electronic viewfinder (but not so with the through-the-lens optical view of a DSLR's pentaprism). Somehow, the "flattening" of the scene as seen on the LCD or EVF helps me.
2. There are certain angles in bright sunlight in which it is flat impossible to an LCD on the back of a camera (or phone) unless it is shielded or shaded in some way. I bought a rugged camera for use while kayaking. On the very first outing, I found I had put the camera on full wide, point in the general direction of the subject, pray, and click. I've written to Olympus tech support and begged them to make a rugged camera with some sort of viewfinder. A rudimentary optical tunnel viewfinder, even one of those wire framing devices they used to have on speed graphic press cameras, would be better than shooting blind. Here endeth the rant.
Posted by: Jock Elliott | Tuesday, 03 April 2018 at 06:05 AM
When you consider what you get in an iPhone ( or any modern phone camera), it’s pretty hard to consider your example a “Fail”.
Is there any camera anywhere that is universally good in every situation?
Every camera needs to some degree to be chosen for the job (s) we need it to do.
I have an iPhone X which it think has quite amazing capabilities, still however I view it as more or less an amazing ‘note taker,/ snapshooter, /handy-camcorder. Which I still find to be a marvel.
But we still always need to consider what we intend to do with the results when we choose it or some other camera.
The fault lies Not in our Cameras, but in ourselves ;-))
Posted by: Michael Perini | Tuesday, 03 April 2018 at 12:05 PM
I'd really like to like cell phone cameras. Two things get in my way.
One is that I have benign essential tremor, so my hands shake. It's very difficult for me to hold a cell phone steady, even in good light. Ditto for viewfinderless cameras.
Two is the complete and total lack of ergonomic design in cell phones. They're not even that easy to use as phones, much less as cameras. Rectangular boxes with rounded corners, the better to drop them with, you see. Buttons on the edges and sometimes on the back so it's tough hold it without accidentally pushing one of them. And as someone else said before, pushing a virtual shutter button on the screen is the direction most likely to increase camera shake.
What I want: Flip-up viewing hood, just like camera makers figured out a hundred years ago. Rotating lens module (or even a mirror) so that look-down viewing is possible (long live the TLR). Those things would make body bracing possible. Yes, I do still like my Rollei, and I know I'm not the only one who does.
I doubt the contention that cell phone makers even employ camera engineers. How would any sane camera designer allow such a human-unfriendly design to be released for manufacture?
Posted by: Richard Freeman | Tuesday, 03 April 2018 at 12:27 PM
And then, there is that wonderful little photo book by Andre Kertesz, "Birds." Lots of pigeons in that one.
Posted by: Richard Skoonberg | Tuesday, 03 April 2018 at 02:04 PM
I have to pay attention and be disciplined to compose well through a DSLR viewfinder. I have a tendency to look *through* it at the subject(s). So I see the trees, the people, the cars, the buildings, whatever. What I want to see is a two dimensional rectangular image. When I started playing around with my first couple digicams, I realized that seeing the 2d image on the LCD provided that abstraction easily. Around that same time, I also bought an angle finder for doing macro work and discovered that it gave me a similar level of abstraction. Whether it's because I was seeing something that wasn't directly in front of me or something about the image in the finder, it made it intuitively obvious that I was looking at an image. I'll have to play around with this some more - I wonder if it's because I was seeing an obviously bounded rectangle where I'm hard pressed to see out to all of the edges and corners of some viewfinders with my eyeglasses.
Anyway, now the problem with LCDs is that I have to hold them too far away to see them clearly. (I'm way overdue for an updated eyeglass prescription).
None of that makes my iPhone a particularly enjoyable camera, though.
Posted by: Dennis | Tuesday, 03 April 2018 at 02:44 PM
As much as I love having a camera with me all the time, the one thing I hate about camera phones is how the screen turns to black when the thinnest ray of sunlight reaches them.
Most of the time I just hold a ‘black brick’ roughly in the direction I want and hope for the best.
Posted by: Gaspar Heurtley | Tuesday, 03 April 2018 at 03:44 PM
I was thinking about this and I attribute the rise in competent, and sometimes excellent, photos made by non-enthusiasts to mobile phone cameras, the IPhone specifically. BUT .. the the vast majority look the same in aesthetic terms, and are boring.
The issue I see is that the controls necessary to modify the image “capture” (I don’t like that term) in real time are so inaccessible as to be irrelevant. What makes a photographer are precisely those controls and the choices they enable. Post-processing is not irrelevant, but being able to control the moment of exposure is essential.
Posted by: Earl Dunbar | Tuesday, 03 April 2018 at 06:42 PM
All this talk about smartphones leads m3 to report an interesting observation I made on Easter. I was at my daughters house for the holiday. My daughter started to take a picture of her young son holding his even younger cousin with her phone. After one quick shot she dashed into the other room and grabbed her Rebel and returned to shoot several more shots. I guess we shouldn’t give up to quickly on the young folks.
Posted by: Terry Letton | Tuesday, 03 April 2018 at 06:42 PM
Couldn't you have just held up a magnifying glass in front of the iPhone's 28mm-e lens, to get the composition you needed?
Posted by: Arg | Wednesday, 04 April 2018 at 02:02 AM
I thank Bruce McL for the tip about setting grayscale on the iPhone.
Posted by: Richard Parkin | Wednesday, 04 April 2018 at 06:25 AM
Birkett Mills... their Puritan Buckwheat Pancake Mix makes the best pancakes & waffles!
Posted by: Bradley | Wednesday, 04 April 2018 at 09:07 AM
Interesting that some smartphones have true monochrome sensors which can record as such. I think these are Chinese brand with Leica branded lenses. Leica monochrom for the masses (kinda).
Posted by: David Cope | Wednesday, 04 April 2018 at 02:47 PM