Text vs. video is probably just generational, as Michael Mejia vividly explains. (Many values, beliefs, and cultural verities people think are eternal and unchanging are actually just generational, or shared by several generations but not necessarily by those before and after.) I haven't seen very many video reviews of cameras. I don't like watching them, therefore I'm not very familiar with the genre. I'm sure there are many good ones out there. I do appreciate David Thorpe. (He's probably closer to my generation!)
Also bear in mind that I'm a creature of the printed word, so what you're about to read comes from the standpoint my own bias. (That bias is dear to me, so I certainly don't apologize for it. The written word is fabulously rich and has given me great pleasure throughout my life, in many, many ways.)
The shortcomings of video reviews were stated succinctly by nextSibling:
The problem with video in general is it has very low information density and poor reference mechanisms, as information designers would say.
Bingo. A commenter also named Michael extolled the video Fuji X-H1 review by Palle Schultz (who, Roman points out, is not a fully independent reviewer, but, like Jonas Rask, is an official "Fuji X Photographer." Here's the list).
And actually, for me, Palle's video is a perfect illustration of what nextSibling complains about: it's mainly about the videography aspects of the X-H1, something that doesn't interest me because I shoot only stills. So I get 1/5th of the way into the video, and it starts to waste my time with details about what it's like to shoot video with, and then I get more and more impatient as I wait for the video-shooting segment of the review to end...which it never does, because the reviewer has shot a doc with it and it's almost entirely a discussion of his thoughts about the X-H1's video capabilities. Would I have watched the whole thing through if there was some way of knowing that in advance? No. But nowhere is the review labeled as what it is, and I have no way of knowing that most of the information I happen to want is not even there. I'm just following along blind, going wherever the guy who's talking wants to take me.
Upshot, for Michael: "No reason to view or read anything else." Upshot for me: almost entirely a waste of my time. (Nothing against Palle; his information seems good for what it is.)
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Reviews such as those on DPReview have very good "reference mechanisms" (the table of contents and the index in a printed book are reference mechanisms) in the form of a dropdown menu where pages are labeled with different topics. So if you want to find out about stabilization, say, you can go directly to where that is discussed. Great, except that a technical review has another large failing, which is that it repeats a great deal of the information provided by the manufacturer. I consider most of that to be redundant. I'm fully capable of finding the press release and going to the manufacturer's website (or B&H) and reading the manufacturer's claims for the product, all by myself. A review should contain judgements and opinions. I don't want it to be a substitute for, or a rehash of, the manual. So the only bits of a technical review that interest me are the little nuggets where the reviewer evaluates or critiques the manufacturer's claims or approaches those claims from the standpoint of actual use or experience. And those are sparse.
In that way, even a review that's "dense" with information actually has low information density, which has always been my problem with technical reviews. (I really don't even want all the nitty-gritty spec-sheet details on a product until I've 90% decided to buy it.)
And you are...?
A basic problem of many video reviews these days is that unless they're an established content provider and you're an established fan, you often have little idea of the qualifications and skill level of the reviewer. Take this to the bank when I say it: many people can talk a great game without having the skills to shoot their way out of a wet paper bag. When I write reviews, I take a lot of pains to let people know where I'm coming from and what my skill levels are—and I take pains not to lie about it. If I don't shoot video, say, or long lenses, or fast action, you'll know it, so you can evaluate the information you're getting from me accordingly.
Another obvious problem with reviews these days is that they are posted immediately, and they function mostly like company PR. Hey, look at this exciting new product, here's everything the manufacturer wants me to say about it, go buy it from my links! Right, we're all guilty of the latter, including me, because that's how sites survive these days. But that only excuses the practice, it doesn't make it a desirable trait in a reviewer. By far the most valuable reviews come from people who have used the product for weeks or months and have gotten thoroughly familiar with it through actual experience. (And who have gotten over the glow of "new toy" pride.) Not somebody who shot with it for an hour or just handled it at the company's booth at a show.
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This would seem to vindicate the practice of "beta testers" who receive pre-production samples and use them for weeks before the official rollout date. Except that's not a good practice either, because the best reviews are firmly independent and no beta tester can be truly independent, by definition, for the simple reason that they are dependent (note the word) on the manufacturer for the testing sample. So they're all "making nice." They know full well if they don't, they won't be getting the next new camera in advance. No matter how free they pretend to be, they are not free, because they always have to be mindful of their relationship with the manufacturer. They become de facto extensions of the company PR departments.
Another way this subverts impartiality is that the companies have learned to only give equipment to people that they know for sure are dyed-in-the-wool fanboys and highly unlikely to let slip a negative word. Leica is particularly guilty of this, but most of them do it. Why wouldn't they? They want PR. They do not actually want critical, fully independent reviews.
And ideally?
The best reviews, I think, would:
- Be fully independent*;
- Be the result of using the product over time;
- Be subjective, with the reviewer being completely forthright and forthcoming about his or her skills, affiliations, and biases;
- Keep fully in mind each reader's likely desire to skip over certain parts that don't concern, or pertain to, him or her;
- Keep the information you can get directly from the manufacturer and the manual to a practical minimum, instead reporting on independent experience and use and the results of independent testing, and things like look and feel and ergonomics**; and
- Mix text and very short videos (and other media, for instance graphs or sound files)—all well crafted, and each tailored to the information most suited to each specific media...
- ...With each of the separate video segments clearly labeled and short—of two minutes or less in duration. As the reference mechanism.
Is anyone doing ideal camera reviews these days, taking full advantage of the felicities of the Web but not falling prey to its commonplace idiocies? Not in my opinion***.
That's probably because no one can afford to. The competition from amateur reviewers and forum discussions is just too diffuse and widespread, and the pressure to provide fodder for peoples' initial curiosity is just too great, to focus sufficient attention on a professional, thorough, fully independent review that comes out weeks or months after the release date. Note that this is a situation that other industries exploit to the max; for instance, big ticket movies are now promoted specifically to minimize word-of-mouth publicity. Ad campaigns stir up interest in advance of the films' release in order to help make back the film's investment in the first days and weeks after release—even if the film actually sucks and the eventual consensus is that people don't like it. (That's why films' "first weekend" box office takes are reported so breathlessly, as if any moviegoer cares about that.) The parallel in our field is that people want to be first with the news—and the first owners of new products—because they get attention that way.
But here's the point relative to the post title: the best video review would probably be a string of separate very short video segments, each part labelled separately. That each part should be competently done and maximize video-specific forms of content, things that video is actually useful for conveying, while minimizing the annoying "talking head" stretches, should probably go without saying. Except that it does need to be said. (Have you ever watched a video review where the talking head is waving a new camera around and you just want to have a decent look at the darned thing? Like the guy who was waving around a GX9 for minutes on end while I still didn't know if the viewfinder was fixed or tilting, or whether the viewing screen was the flip-up type or the side-articulated type. That drives me nuts.)
I should add that I've been reviewing cameras since the 1980s and I'm a former editor-in-chief of a technical photography magazine. Just saying that so you know I know my way around the subject, even though I only infrequently write full, formal reviews any more.
Mike
(Thanks to many commenters from Saturday)
*For instance, I get review samples only from B&H Photo and LensRentals; I can be beholden to both those organizations without being the least bit prejudiced in favor of, or against, any particular brand of camera or lens. When I reviewed the Sigma 35mm ƒ/1.4 Art I had two of them here, one for the Sony A900 and one for the Nikon D750, but I didn't have any connection to Sigma or, in fact, any contact with them at all. All you saw was some nice words about LensRentals, which were not prejudicial.
**I always tried to keep in mind the interests of the person who would like to use the camera but couldn't. What would I want to know about it myself if someone else were telling me of his experience with it? It's very hard for inexperienced and amateur reviewers not to take things for granted.
***Roger Cicala comes closest, for this writer. Thom Hogan's and Kirk Tuck's are very good. I don't actually look at a lot of other peoples' reviews.
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Ferdie: "tl;dr. ROFL!"
beuler: "Generally, text reviews are more informative than video (think of the typical spec table). Video reviews are more entertaining than text (think of ex-DigitalRev TV presenter Kai). Do I seek gear reviews to be entertained? Absolutely! Sue me. :-)
"Most video gear reviews will fall between the two extremes of production value. On one end of the spectrum there is just a guy sitting in front of the camera talking. Here is an example à propos. On the opposite end of the spectrum there is the voice over a multitude of imagery that helps to make the point. Here is an example of a one-man-show with high production value. And here is a video review of video review channels. [That last is excellent; thanks. —MJ.]
"In the end what really counts and keeps viewers coming back is engagement. The guy just talking to the camera can be engaging if he is a naturally gifted public speaker and the high production value video will engage if the eye candy is sweet enough—this is independent of the content/substance. In a similar way, the most expert gear connoisseur will not have a single reader for a blog post if he is a lousy writer. Any of you who are regular readers of the LensRentals blog can consider if you keep coming back because of the deep technical insights or because of the wit and lighthearted penmanship of Roger Cicala. Many of the readers here will no doubt watch videos occasionally if they are posted in the middle of a web page article. Just be aware that a huge chunk of Internet users will occasionally read a blog post if it is linked from a YouTube video."
Bill La Via: "I would say that Jonas does a pretty good job of making his biases known (see the second paragraph in his review). Not all sponsored photographers (from any of the brands) do so but I have always found him to be pretty transparent. I also find some genuine nuggets in his 'reviews.' I have found that one needs to read many reviews to triangulate a completely balanced view of a product, and that even then it’s only an approximation of reality; biased reviews are the norm rather than the exception."
Gordon Lewis: "For what it's worth, I tend to look at the video vs. text issue from the perspective of being a professional instructional designer for roughly 20 years. In my profession, video is perfect for showing how to do a procedure, or showing something that would take a lot of words to clearly describe. A procedure can be as complex as a total ankle replacement surgery to something as mundane as clearing a clog out of a dishwasher, but if the steps are visually clear enough, the need for verbal description is minimal.
"Even so, it's good practice to add time coded steps or sections, so that if I want to go directly to Step Three or some other important topic, I know exactly where to find it. Where video really sucks is when you have a talking head or disembodied voice that is simply explaining instead of showing. This is almost as idiotic as having a voiceover narrator read the exact text that's already printed on screen. Why do I need to look at you if all you're doing is talking while holding a camera?"
Keith: "Print vs video. Maybe it's because I'm old school, but video as a way of giving actual information is terrible. With text one can skim along thinking, 'I know this, know this, know this, aha! that's what I'm looking for,' and then start reading closely. It's easy to go back to step 2, and make sure you really do cut the red wire before attaching the blue wire to something. One can skim over the introductory text and dive right into chapter 6, because the table of contents says that's where to find what you're interested in. That can't be done on video unless someone has already posted a comment (if you read the comments) that says the review actually starts at 2:18. Plus,and this is a personal thing, I can't stand the way most videos start. 'Hey what's up, blah blah here for xyz, click on the like button,' and other such blither. Most of them have no idea how to get to the point, and once there, stay on it. Give me text any day."
Terry Letton: "This just reminds me the Chevy Vega was once Motor Trend Car of the Year. I bet MT would have liked that one back."
Wes Cosand: "Just a note to say thank you for your reviews. On the basis of your reviews of the Panasonic cameras and those of David Thorpe, I rented the Panasonic GX8 and its Olympus competitor and used them for a couple weeks. Then I gave my children all my full frame gear and ordered GX8 bodies and lenses, and have never derived more joy from photography."
Nicholas Condon: "As a 43 year old, I'm middling-young for a (now somewhat lapsed) hobbyist photographer. As an Internet content consumer, though, I'm ancient. And I just absolutely can't stand to acquire information (as opposed to entertainment) from videos. 'Hi, I'm Bob. Today, I'll be showing you how to use the <$FEATURE> of <$PRODUCT>. First, turn on <$PRODUCT>...' ...And with 30 seconds wasted without one single quantum of useful information conveyed, I'm done. In that amount of time, there's a good chance that, on a text-and-graphics instruction page, I could have already found the one small bit of information I was looking to obtain from the silly video to begin with. Meanwhile, my girlfriend's 12-year-old daughter would rather sit through a 45-minute video to obtain one sentence of useful information than find that one sentence in a well-written text-and-graphics article. There is either a severe generational divide here, or that particular 12-year-old has substantially more patience than this particular, grumpy 43-year-old."
Mike replies: Yes, it's somewhat interesting and ironic how common it is to say that kids today don't have any attention span, when actually they have a protean patience for videos that many older people don't have. I do wonder how they spend time to watch all that...but then, they would wonder how I have the time to read a book each week. I guess it's all a matter of priorities and preferences.
Rene Theberge: "The best review of a camera I've read in a long time is Kirk Tuck's recent review of the Panasonic GH5. It told me everything I needed to know about this camera in actual use."
Eolake: "Correction: MY generational ideas are wise and correct. Earlier ones are stuffy. Newer ones are silly and ephemeral."
Jim (partial comment): "I second your comments re video vs. written reviews or whatever, and that from someone who has created over 100 highly technical videos, mostly lectures, that have over 2.5 million views. I have two 30-something techie kids and know other age groups and I think the deal with video is 'CPA'— continuous partial attention. You cannot read an article and do much else, but you can watch a video with some attention and do other things. The bane of our existence is the CPA on phone calls when you can hear the clicking of a keyboard in the background."
Mark Roberts: "I greatly prefer written reviews to video, but so many video reviews fall far short of what they could be. Here's a checklist that far too many YouTube video makers have no idea they need. How to make a video:
1 — Write a script Write out exactly what you're going to say (verbatim) and what you're going to show. Then re-write it.
2 — Rehearse the script For crying out loud, practice a few times before you press Record.
3 — Edit Trim all the fat.
4 — Add voiceover narration in post Don't describe doing what you're doing while you do it. Adding narration in post lets you concentrate at one thing at a time and do it well.
5 — Edit again After you think you've trimmed as much as you can, watch your video again and see if you can cut any more. If you're honest with yourself you'll find more. I've given up on many videos because they were too long but never one because it was too short.
"Also: Keep the intro brief. I've seen some that go one for almost a minute with animation and music. Check out B&H Photo's videos for comparison. Their intro is five seconds long and contains little more than their logo."
Mike replies: I will add to your Number 5, Mark, that I'm more engaged with videos that move quickly. When my son did his videos when he was in high school, he researched the top video presenters and developed a fast and clear method of speaking (which he was very good at). One of my favorite video producers, Doug DeMuro, speaks very quickly and actually edits out many pauses. It's not that everything he says is essential, as that the video keeps moving quickly. I can stick with him for 18 minutes where I will leave other presenters much sooner simply because they talk slower and don't fill the time as well.
Also, your Numbers 2 and 3 go together somewhat...as you rehearse, edits will be suggested as you actually hear what's natural to say and what's not.
Ken Tanaka (partial comment): "Honestly, whether you’re researching a camera or a lens, renting/test-driving is THE best way to make the best-infomed decision about something costly."
Roger Cicala: "Another well thought out piece, Mike, that I enjoyed. I work with around a hundred 25–35 year olds and have this conversation with them a lot. I find video reviews inefficient and a waste of time; they find written reviews not very entertaining.
"Personally, I think video avoids constructive criticism. When I see someone writes something I think is wrong or incomplete, I send them an email, they can correct their article if they think it's appropriate in a few keystrokes. When the video is incorrect at the 15:33 mark, well, they aren't going to make a new video. And I've always wondered, if everyone is there to watch video because they don't like to read, who reads the 312 comments on the video page? What's the proper protocol, anyway? Shouldn't I make a video comment instead of writing?
"In this business, the one thing that has amazed me is how little investment from the manufacturer is required to get PR reviews. A few lenses, a trip or chance to lecture, being named an 'Ambassador,' and they have a friend for life. It's got to be the best return on investment they can get.
"I'm very lucky, I don't have to make my living doing this. I want to believe I'd write the same stuff if my livelihood depended on it. But I doubt that's really true; I'd certainly be more 'damn with faint praise' and less 'they really screwed this up.'
"You, Thom, Kirk, Dave Etchells and a few others are opinions I search out. I think, perhaps, what we all have in common is we're old enough to not care what the manufacturers think (very much)."
All sensible points Mike. My only qualifier is that I do value video reviews where people focus on manipulating the object, in other words, using it, doing things with it. The author of a text-based review can describe an action (e.g., how a part of a camera moves when you operate it), but a good video focused on that movement can do a much better job.
This is the kind of thing that your 2 minute videos interspersed in a good text review should do. When a still picture can't convey what you're trying to show, include a short video to get the point across.
Posted by: Rob de Loe | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 11:37 AM
I do enjoy reading Ming Thein's reviews. Though he might lose points for independence -he's part of Hasselblad's management now, but he mostly reviews such as advanced compacts, where Hassy doesn't compete. Thein's reviews are wordy, but his language is so eloquently written that I don't mind. His concept of a describing a camera's "performance envelope," the range of uses for which is its comfortably sufficient, is very valuable. And somehow, despite a globe-trotting professional schedule, he remains open and responsive to his readers. So you might call him the anti-Ken Rockwell.
Speaking of blowhards and provocateurs, It's interesting to think about one top government official who doesn't read his national security briefing papers, or evidently anything at all.
Video is like a slow, slow drip of information, compared to the written page. It's hard for me to understand who has the patience for this. Perhaps there are folks out there who can't read as fast as they can listen?
Posted by: John McMillin | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 12:00 PM
Amen!!
Posted by: Al Mallozzi | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 12:01 PM
For what it's worth, whenever I want to know a camera's specification I go to dpreview. I don't go to the manufacturer's site. I like the format of dpreview - everything I want, neatly broken out into separate pages so I can look at just the bit I want.
That means, however, that every other review in the world doesn't need to quote specs, because dpreview has already done it. That's just how I use the web. You may do it differently.
Anthony
Posted by: Anthony Shaughnessy | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 12:43 PM
I miss Michael Reichmann's reviews, precisely for the points you raise ... even though I couldn't afford a Phase One back.
Posted by: Charles Lanteigne | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 12:49 PM
There's nothing better than a test drive. Fun too.
Posted by: Speed | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 12:56 PM
I’ve always enjoyed, appreciated, and generally agreed with Bjørn Rørslett‘s subjective lens evaluations at http://www.naturfotograf.com/lens_surv.html. His collection of reviews of (mostly older or discontinued) Nikkor lenses is a treasure trove of useful information.
These days, he can be found at http://nikongear.net, offering opinions and reviews of more current equipment.
Posted by: Dave in NM | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 01:03 PM
I find video reviews (mostly) excruciating for all the reasons Mike cites. They're like accessing music on an old-fashioned cassette tape player; it's linear, not hierarchical, awkward to skip past the dull parts, and a concealing black box until you open it with some media device.
The only thing a video review can do that text cannot is to vividly demonstrate features of real-world ergonomics that are difficult to describe but obvious once you see 'em. Like how difficult a camera's controls are to operate while wearing gloves.
The closest thing to a good video review I've seen was on photographer/author David DuChemin's 'Craft and Vision' YouTube channel a few months back. He handled a Fujifilm XT-2 and demonstrated his entire 4 lens kit to show how very compact it was, how it didn't get in his way...and resumed talking about the far greater importance of vision, point of view, and crafting a narrative using images.
Posted by: Geoff Wittig | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 01:05 PM
Yes Mike I fully agree with your actual analyst regarding all the present "professional" reviewers available on the Web. Independence and personal point of view have been evacuated from any discussion but the nature of the people that are consulting these "corporate" product presentations dont really allow to be critical or subjective. And many bloggers are trying to live of the publicist references. Yes there are becoming "marketers" (first line) of the camera manufacturers.
In fact you have to go further (deeper) into the Web planet to find passionate but money uninterested persons in an effort to get more refresh equipment or technical evaluation. And I can tell you that the comments issued from a more original point of view can be very harsh or destructive. This is why you have to stay focus on your passion.
Receive my warmest salutations.
Daniel M
Posted by: Daniel M | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 01:06 PM
I agree 100% Mike. The best reviews let you know who the reviewer is and what type of photography they prefer. On the other hand, "how to" videos can be invaluable. Once, after flipping around the web trying to find out how to fix a problem with my dishwasher, I started to look at the videos. I think I found a great one on my second try. It showed me how to do exactly what I could not understand from the poorly written "how to" descriptions. I stepped through the video turning it on and off. It was a great help and saved my lots of money that I would have paid to a service company.
Posted by: Dave Karp | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 01:15 PM
I can think of a couple of ways the new generation deals with the low density of video (and audio) content:
1. They play it back at 1.5x or 2x speed.
2. They play the video while also doing something else.
Consumption strategies adjust to the differences in content.
Posted by: Yoshi Carroll | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 02:06 PM
Can I leave an OT comment ? Regarding Terry Letton's comment on the Chevy Vega: I bought one of those bow-wows on the basis of that Motor Trend review. Not only was it the worst car I have ever driven because of dozens of mechanical faults, my Vega had a 6 ounce glass Coke bottle welded into the body compartment by the passenger rocker panel so that ever time I turned a corner it made a horrible noise. It took five trips to the dealer to have them figure this out. There must have been some big union grievance at the factory that week.
Posted by: Jim Freeman | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 02:08 PM
I second Rob de Loe's comment about certain advantages of seeing camera controls and operability in action as a supplement to written reviews. Gordon Laing of CameraLabs: https://www.cameralabs.com delivers an impressive combination of written and video reviews with the emphasis on usability and fit to a photographic end-purpose. His written reviews are some of the most comprehensive and practical I've read and his no-nonsense, fact-dense videos are tailored to real-life operability: handling in realistic settings, just how many levels down is that menu, what can you actually use this camera's touch screen for, etc.
He has a similar background to yours Michael - a former film photographer, many years as a writer and editor of technical magazines (PC's and personal electronics), started his CameraLabs blog in 2005, an independent one-man show with, as far as I know, no entangling sponsorships. And like you, a talented writer.
John Merlin Williams
Posted by: John Merlin Williams | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 02:19 PM
One of the reasons I'm a faithful TOP reader and don't read DPReview anymore is TOP is mostly about photography and DPReview is about equipment. When you get right down to it, virtually all enthusiast-grade or pro-grade cameras by major makers are more than competent. Most of the important differences can't be reviewed because they reside in the user, not in the camera. I can pick up almost any high-end Nikon going back fifty years, and be comfortable in a couple of minutes. I can't with Canon, because I never used Canon. How does a reviewer deal with that, especially if he basically works for a camera company trying to peddle a particular line of gear? The answer is, he can't. I suspect most dedicated Canon users can do what I do with Nikons, and guess what -- the photos shot side-by-side would be indistinguishable.
At one time, a decade ago, and a bit more, DPReview was important because the tech was changing so quickly and so radically, and the cameras were so expensive -- there WERE major differences between digital cameras that resided in the gear. Not so much any more. I mean, my god, we're now down to arguing whether the view screens should flip all over the place, or just up and down. Who could really give a rat's ass?
Posted by: John Camp | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 02:22 PM
The late Geoffrey Crawley was an excellent reviewer (ex BJP editor, etc.).
Posted by: Trevor Johnson | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 02:35 PM
The main problem with videos is that they aren't searchable by google et. al. so if someone says something interesting about flash synch speeds or the like I'll never find it. Also they are almost all too long to watch and the only impression I get is that the presenters are to lazy to write the stuff down. Unless they are funny. Funny works. If Sabine Schmitz did cameras the way she does cars, I'd watch that.
Posted by: hugh crawford | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 03:12 PM
I also like Kirk Tuck’s reviews, because they are only of cameras that he has used for a long time.
Posted by: James Weekes | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 03:21 PM
As far as video reviews go, I must confess to be a fan of David Thorpe. His calm and knowledgeable narrative is an absolute pleasure to watch. Short, insightful videos made by someone who can tell a story. Look elsewhere for hyperbolic sales talk. Highly recommended!
Posted by: Martin Elfver | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 03:21 PM
The difference between text and video is like looking at a score (if you read music) or listening to a performance. The former exists in its entirety continually and can be studied, reviewing passages as desired or skipping over other passages. The performance exists only in time and the sequence of it is entirely under the control of the performer, not the audience.
There are some things I like in a video, such as how-to do XYZ, but for equipment reviews I prefer text. I especially loathe the "unboxing" videos.
Posted by: Jim Bullard | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 03:41 PM
Technically speaking, anyone who publishes a video in the UK that isn't supported by a text transcript is breaking the Equality Act. No one seems to mind or do anything about it.
p.s.
Videos are more palatable at 1.25x speed - it removes most of the excruciating drawn out pauses in speech that make video such a tedious medium.
p.p.s.
I seem to remember that early Luminous Landscape contained no advertising and Michael was proud to say that he only reviewed equipment he owned and purchased himself. Difficult to be a long term review site with such a policy but not impossible.
Posted by: Dave Millier | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 04:36 PM
I will add my voice to those who prefer text over video reviews. I wish to point out another quite annoying aspect of some of the video reviews... background music. I find the music too distracting and often it is so loud it competes with the narration. Add to that not all people will like the music or sound effects chosen and some will actually abhor it. When reading text I can chose my own background music or not.
Posted by: FrankB | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 04:46 PM
I see what you mean, Mike. And surely, from an editor's point of view, a *review* needs to be fully rounded, and to speak articulately to the specific interest of many reader/viewer. And to capture as many reader/viewers as possible, the full rounding has got to be pretty comprehensive.
But even then, What reader A wants to know may still be quite different from what reader B wants.
What I took away from Palle Schultz's review was 1) it is quite a chunky camera, 2) its body stabilization is so good that you can bounce around in the back seat on an awful road and yet get good video, 3) that the stabilization is therefore very likely to be more than enough for my shaky hands, and 4) its got everything the X-T2 has, and more, except for the relative lightness. Plus there were enough video segments to show that, at least in the hands of someone skilled, the camera could deliver fine results.
Then, given that it otherwise is the X-T2 / X-Pro2 heart in the camera, I had learned all I needed to know.
But of course you're right, if I were someone who did not already have experience of an X-T2 already, then it would have been a sadly deficient review. So I suppose the editor would have rejected it.
But nevertheless I recommend the oeuvre of Palle Schultz on YouTube, even to the most hardened graphocentrics among us.
Posted by: Michael | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 05:07 PM
You write: "The written word is fabulously rich and has given me great pleasure throughout my life, in many, many ways." I agree totally. I grow more annoyed with news stories that are available only through videos that prohibit savoring fine writing. Reporters have to be both writers and simultaneous videographers. I think both media suffer.
Posted by: Les Myers | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 05:23 PM
An engaging and witty writing style alloyed to an absence of promotional urgency earned Michael Reichman---and you---loyal followers. I would add Gregory Simpson ("egor" at Ultrasomething) to that all too short list. His review of the Leica M 246 stands out for both its bias and honesty.
Posted by: George Andros | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 05:31 PM
"I don't actually look at a lot of other peoples' reviews."
Neither to I, because:
"A review should contain judgements and opinions."
I'm not interested in others' judgments and opinions on cameras since rarely do reviewers use them for the type of photography I do.
Discussions of ergonomics are pointless, since one person's feel of the grip is different from another's, as an example. My first Micro Four Thirds camera (note: no abbreviations!) was the Panasonic G3. The first reviewer I read complained about the small form factor of the grip. I found it to be perfect for my hand.
The same with menus and buttons: you either love them or hate them. Who cares what someone else thinks!
I can find the technical description and specifications of a camera from the press release, or manufacturer's web site. If it is a camera I am interested in, I will evaluate it myself. Renting today is quite a wonderful option.
I've always liked Fred Picker's statement, "Careful photographers run their own tests.
Richard Jones
Posted by: Richard Jones | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 05:41 PM
I'm time poor. I can scan/read/post much faster than I can watch someone talk. Which is the point with a video camera review, why use a visual medium if it only conveys words?
Posted by: Bear. | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 06:06 PM
Gordon Lewis said it well. The problem with video reviews is that they are usually wordier versions of written reviews with some moving image and possibly still frames thrown in. Still frames! What's the point, it's far easier to look at stills on webpages than as a part of a video. Particularly irksome are stills in video that intend to convey something about image quality; highly compressed video streams do not exactly lend themselves well to illustrate where the image quality in stills lie.
A thing that video can work for is tripods: a video can be a good tool in illustrating how the different mechanical bits work and how the tripod fares in the field. Provided that video is well made that is.
Posted by: Oskar Ojala | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 06:11 PM
Watching video is passive. Reading is active. The reader is in control of pace, time and focus invested, linearity, and more. The viewer has little choice.
I understand that the explosion of video around the web is in great part driven by advertisers. Makes sense given the balance of power over attention. But how does it help them when as soon as I realize that the link brought me to a video, I leave and search for a text source of the same information?
Video may be worth a thousand words, but often it's the wrong thousand words, or a thousand words you could have read in a fraction of the time. And even when it is useful, it's a lot less convenient to refer back to a segment of video than to a passage of text, and there's no easy way to search video for something specific.
That said, I like reading and I'm good at it. If that weren't the case, I very well might prefer to watch rather than read. So maybe I'm just being old and curmudgeonly.
Posted by: robert e | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 06:17 PM
As I hinted at in a comment a few days ago, I prefer good written reviews, but also appreciate well-done (rare) video reviews.
Written reviews have all the advantages mentioned, especially quick and easy to find information and they waste less time on someone blathering on about the obvious.
However, I often watch video reviews ever for cameras I have no intention of buying, because they can be both informative and entertaining.I used to watch DigiRev's reviews which were quite entertaining, but many complained they they did not have enough technical information. I now watch The Camera Store's Chris Niccolls and Jordan Drake as they do a good job at both, and often review both still and video capabilities separately. Yes, they do sell the cameras reviewed, but I see no evidence that it affects the reviews. They can be extremely critical. (I don't watch TV, so I seek other forms of time-wasting, perhaps.)
I have a few reviewers who are still around that I always check out when buying a camera or lens because I can trust them. One is Thom Hogan. I used to always check out reviews at Luminous Landscape when Michael was still alive.
Posted by: D. Hufford | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 06:18 PM
Another frustration with video reviews (of anything). They're almost always too long. For all the reasons others have already mentioned (information-free intros, etc.) but also because most video reviewers (like most photographers) can't edit.
Just as most photographers find it hard to be brutal self-critics, so the same appears to be true of videographers. As Blaise Pascal said (lets go with Pascal - https://quoteinvestigator.com/2012/04/28/shorter-letter/) If I had more time... Maybe in the rush to be first to monetize the latest content, video reviewers don't have the time to make a shorter video.
Posted by: nextSibling | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 06:23 PM
Videomaker magazine has excellent reviews of digital "still" cameras being used to shoot video. They are almost 100% focused on the video capabilities of the cameras and almost nil on the still photography aspects of the cameras.
Posted by: Greg | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 07:10 PM
Video has an essential difference from both the printed word and the still photograph, which is that the creator determines the pacing, not the viewer.
Video is intended for, and works for, people and contexts in which ceding that power is the right thing to do, and the most obvious case of that is entertainment. Indeed, even video content which ostensibly provides Information (the evening news, camera reviews) is really more about entertainment than information. It's about something you can use to kill some time, of which there is for each of us, an unending supply, right? The alleged information is just there as a thin justification for checking out and ditching responsibility for a while.
I love movies. I would watch movies all day. But I can't, stuff to do, stuff to do.
Posted by: Andrew Molitor | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 08:12 PM
Can I add a vote to Mr.Hufford's regarding The Camera Store(Youtube)?
The presentation is leavened with a lot of good natured humour and ribbing while still being informative.
They have no trouble canning a camera if it's a dud.
Watch Chris do his artistic take with a Leica with tongue planted firmly in cheek.
Recommended.
Posted by: David Robinson | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 08:55 PM
My issue with video reviews and how-to's (unless I absolutely cannot find the information any other way), is that THEY control my pace and my time. Bah!
I like the format of DPR for getting a quick overview of specs. It's "standardized." Manufacturers' specs ain't.
MT Car of the Year can be used as a product warning. Both MT CoY I've purchased were stinkers.
Posted by: MikeR | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 08:58 PM
I second your comments re video vs written reviews or whatever, and that from someone who has created over 100 highly technical videos, mostly lectures, that have over 2.5 million views. I have two 30-something techie kids and know othe age groups and I think the deal with video is "CPA"- continuous partial attention. You cannot read an article and do much else, but you can watch a video with some attention and do other things. The bane of our existence is the CPA on phone calls when you can hear the clicking of a keyboard in the background.
But camera reviews, like many other reviews, are often more subjective and if you don't have the same viewpoint, they have little relevance. I quit reading "objective" reviews with lab tests because the data is mostly irrelevant, much like the 0-60mph (0-100kph for non US readers) or cornering Gs on car tests have little or no relevance to real-world usage.
Based on feedback from people I know, it must be like online dating - what. you find online may not suit your taste.....or match reality...
Posted by: Jim | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 10:20 PM
Consider "Twilight of the Books" http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2007/12/24/twilight-of-the-books if you want more confirmation bias (or as I call it, evidence). This link is of course coming from someone who primarily writes about books ( http://jakeseliger.com ) rather than cameras, photos, or video, so I should lay my own biases out too.
Posted by: jseliger | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 10:52 PM
Being in the midst of a rather deep and intense lens purchase research effort right now I’ll have to just say Yes to each of the points you listed here, Mike. This probably would be the most costly lens purchase I’ve ever made so I do feel some pressure to get it right. Unfortunately it’s also out of the boundaries my usual go-to review resources such as DPreview. So I’m having to rely on a combination of some video and some text reviews, none of which are sufficiently specific or experienced to be of much help, frankly. None of the reviews tags all bases for competence and lack of bias. And none of the video reviews have proven to be very worthwhile. (I plan to completely skip this non-nutritive review medium from now on.)
So I’ve thrown my hands in the air and rented the lens for a week and am taking it for a pretty comprehensive test drive. Honestly, whether you’re researching a camera or a lens, renting/test-driving is THE best way to make the best-infomed decision about something costly.
Posted by: Ken Tanaka | Monday, 19 February 2018 at 11:54 PM
My favorite grumpy professor's revenge to the iPhone absorption is http://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/2014/06/08 .
There's another one of this ilk that describes the extra difficulties when the unprepared use colleagues on WhatsApp and Google to answer questions. Reaction to both comics was mixed along generation lines, with half (I wonder which?) blaming the professor.
Posted by: scott kirkpatrick | Tuesday, 20 February 2018 at 03:47 AM
I do think there was someone doing reviews which tick a fair number of your boxes, oddly that was Ming Thein. He’s understandably not everyone’s cup of tea as a photographer but he did write opinion of use based reviews (until hasselblad). Unfortunately his buddy who co-writes the blog now isn’t as good.
Posted by: Barry Reid | Tuesday, 20 February 2018 at 04:12 AM
Maybe I am too old or just European 😏 but what is: Ferdie: "tl;dr. ROFL!"???
[tl;dr = "too long; didn't read"; ROFL = "rolling on floor laughing." --Ed.]
Posted by: Winfried Heyland | Tuesday, 20 February 2018 at 04:54 AM
LOL Ferdie.
The visual arts (video included) can be entertaining and provocative if done well, but as I see it, intelectual progress happens with the written word. It has been so for millennia. Part of the reason might be that reading and writing have less, but better participants.
Still, I can´t help linking to one of the best camera reviews out there (text or video), as pointed out by Daren Miles. Watch iPhonedo https://youtu.be/8WD9C3C2koU bury the Panasonic GH5 in a pile of humor and technical failures.
Posted by: beuler | Tuesday, 20 February 2018 at 06:46 AM
I was nodding emphatically while reading all the above comments on how text is better than video. But apparently we're the minority here.
But the reason for my comment is related to what Mike wrote:
Another obvious problem with reviews these days is that they are posted immediately, [...] By far the most valuable reviews come from people who have used the product for weeks or months and have gotten thoroughly familiar with it through actual experience
Well that's exactly my feeling. I want long-term reviews, and I guess many other people would benefit from reading long-term reviews especially now that cameras are uniformly good and second-hand gear is so convenient.
Can I link to something I wrote in my obscure corner of the web? It's about my experience with a Fuji X-Pro 1 written in 2017. Yes, 2017! I may have gone off the tangent here and there but I think the underlying message is similar to what Mike writes.
Technical details, we all agree -- check the manufacturer's website or dpreview. Real, articulated comments by normal people using the camera to do what they're supposed to do (taking pics!) it's what I want to read. The "official Fuji X-photographer" praising the jpeg profiles? Enough already!
These days I value more the TOP comments about camera gear than any other site. Among the sponsored photographer the only one I follow and whose advice or comment is truly interesting to read is Patrick Laroque (for example, this one is intriguing because he was able to capture my attention talking about the some Fuji jpeg profiles I've mentioned above).
About professionals, I'd be interested to hear what Alex Majoli thinks about his m4/3 Olympus camera and if there's anything peculiar in this choice.
I have the feeling that the truly good photographers/artist do not talk about gear like it's a dirty subject. But then I remember watching a video with Jay Meisel showing the same passion for gear that I'd have -- he mentioned using a 'lowly' 70-300 Nikon zoom for his street photos. And Galen Rowell in some of his Outdoor Photography columns (or Photographer? the US magazine...) going in depth about his use of low-end Nikon gear which was lighter than the pro cameras and lenses.
Posted by: Alessandro Amato del Monte (aadm) | Tuesday, 20 February 2018 at 06:58 AM
I enjoy Thorsten von Overgaard, Mattias Burling and Maarten Heilbron because they seem to know what they're talking about and don't seem to care one whit about trying to be funny or cool or, worst, FIRST. In fact, one of my favorite things about Burling is his reviews of older cameras that are still worth considering for purchase.
Posted by: Terry E Manning | Tuesday, 20 February 2018 at 09:55 AM
I would say that there are good video reviews and bad ones. Sometimes it's good to see in the video how something is done (this is especially true of editing software), or how peripherals and accessories link up to the camera.
As far as text reviews are concerned, again there are good ones and bad ones. Here I also think that there are times when the generally terribly written manuals need amplification. Sometimes it's good to get that in a review! Otherwise I usually buy the book or e-book if available. I wish I had time to write one for the 645Z, because there isn't one.
Posted by: Tex Andrews | Tuesday, 20 February 2018 at 10:53 AM
The good news is that the pace of camera technology innovations is slowing. Perhaps it is ironic that this is "good" news but I consider it to be the case. The technology is maturing. 10 years ago a camera was considered technologically obsolete in 6 months. The pace of innovation and customer upgrade was so fast that reviewers needed to be publishing very quickly so not be be providing information that was considered instantly irrelevant. The reviewer had little time to live with the new camera before his/her opinion held little value.
Today, the technology innovation cycle is much slower. We can expect our cameras to be relevant for 5 to 7 years at least. This makes making the right purchase decision more crucial and thus the quality of the review much more important. It also should give the reviewer more time to develop a well thought out and considered opinion.
Posted by: Al DaValle | Tuesday, 20 February 2018 at 11:32 AM
Mike,
Actually the X-H1 has many improvements over the X-T2 that do in fact matter for still shooting. The EVF is completely new and ever more brilliant than the previous one. With burst shooting Fuji has made it almost completely free of black-out. The shutter mechanism and release are remarkably smooth. Oh yeah, IBIS too (you wanted that a few weeks ago). The AF-C tracking algorithms are vastly overhauled making the AF far more accurate and responsive, and more sensitive in low light (down to -1EV now). And even though it's a bit heavier than X-T2, that's because the metal is thicker: it's a tougher machine now.
Posted by: Michael Bulbenko | Tuesday, 20 February 2018 at 11:36 AM
YouTube is awash with video reviews, but I’m selective in what I watch, I like to be informed & IMHO the best channel for that is The Camera Store
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheCameraStoreTV/videos?view=0&shelf_id=1&sort=dd
I also like Kai W for his guttural school boyish humour.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCknMR7NOY6ZKcVbyzOxQPhw/videos?disable_polymer=1
For written reviews I recommend Kirk Tuck as have others already & I would also add Dustin Abbot who also does video reviews. Below is his latest review on the Sony A7rIII
https://dustinabbott.net/2018/02/sony-a7r3-a7r-iii-review/
Posted by: Andy F | Tuesday, 20 February 2018 at 12:57 PM
I don't know enough about the demographics of this website to be sure, but I imagine that at 31 I may skew to to the younger quintile here.
Yet despite that, I vehemently and wholeheartedly am with the herd here in proclaiming my dislike my video reviews.
To reiterate: low information density, no indexing, no skimmability.
And despite all that, a talking head somehow manages to be even less visually interesting to me than a monitor screen filled with text. At least print reviews occasionally have useful pictures and informational graphs embedded in them from time to time...
My partner (same age) is the same. It's gotten to the point where if I click a news article and it's a video, I will sooner click away (and leave that tempting nugget of information, whatever it was, forever locked in its internet vault) than waste my time trying to extract it from a video.
Harrumph!
Posted by: Andrew | Tuesday, 20 February 2018 at 01:07 PM
I read and skim faster than I can listen / view a video.
And that's pretty much why I don't do video. However, I do confirm that this is the direction for a lot of education, especially in technology nowadays.
Cheers, Pak
Posted by: Pak-Ming Wan | Wednesday, 21 February 2018 at 03:01 AM
This is an aside... you mention you get review equipment from &H and lens rentals and thus feel you aren't, as a result, influenced.
As a retired physician I'm reminded of the effects of pharmaceutical marketing to doctors. One study showed that 85% of MDs felt that this marketing didn't effect them but felt that most other docs are influenced.
As you know the drug manufacturers spend a tremendous amount of money on marketing to docs and their management isn't stupid. Giving samples, dinners, trip, works. (from the point of view of the pharmaceutical companies).
So what if B&H had a deal with a manufacturer to promote a given camera, and strongly urged you to review it? (I have nothing against B&H. I'm a very satisfied customer)
The only way to be completely objective would be to buy everything yourself (like Consumer Reports), and I recognize that's not possible. But do recognize we're all subtilely influenced.
By the way, I do agree that video reviews are mostly a waste of time, but do enjoy "The Camera Store" reviews as mentioned earlier. They are entertaining and don't hesitate to pan something they're reviewing.
Posted by: Steve Jacobs | Wednesday, 21 February 2018 at 09:05 PM
Yes, the data rate issue is key. Some younger people say they find the video more entertaining, but I find it less engaging, often to the point where it makes it hard to keep my attention focused on it.
Far, far back, in the very early 1980s, I got through an audio training program for work only because I had a cassette player that would play at 2x normal speed (without pitch correction, back then). The combination of cutting the time in half, plus the extra mental challenge of understanding the high squeaky voices, was enough to keep me engaged enough to follow the material. Otherwise, the data rate was too low to hold my interest.
Posted by: David Dyer-Bennet | Saturday, 24 February 2018 at 10:55 AM