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Monday, 04 September 2017


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The Nikon D850 seems to be a fabulous DSLR for autofocus lenses - the best yet. But, with no focus screen optimized for manual focus with fast lenses and no electronic viewfinder, I don't understand why anyone who prefers handheld photography with manual focus lenses would ever purchase a current Nikon DSLR body. Have been using Nikon camera bodies for 50 years, and wish I could justify giving my cash to Nikon for the latest toy, but what good is a wonderful new camera body if you can't see the image clearly enough in the viewfinder to achieve critical focus? Why with more than 100 million Nikon F mount lenses sold is Nikon in this way failing to support their F mount for manual focus?

I am going to respectfully disagree on this one. This is a "refinement" of the first order, if(IF!) when it hits the streets we find that the improvements have indeed been implemented properly and there are no bugs. Its quantitative changes add up to qualitative change.

While many readers here would/might disagree, the 4K video is in itself a major upgrade---Nikon has lagged in this area. At work I have to use Canon 5DmkIV's, and the best thing about them is the video implementation (not w/o a couple of dumb flaws, though) and its touch screen. We wind up having to go back and forth from stills to video---I did just that this last week on a tight deadline--and I know other pro shooters who are now having to do the same thing, and they are not even wedding or events people.

One day I will own a camera like this, but for the foreseeable future my Canon Rebel will have to do.

The current era is mirrorless; there's no need for mirror boxes anymore.

Nikon still has not figured this out. One wonders if they ever will.

When I started shooting, we (everybody) desperately needed improvements in photography just to keep our heads above water. We REALLY needed faster film, and those of us who were primarily media shooters REALLY needed better zooms. I used to struggle back and forth between Plus-X and Tri-X because Tri-X usually looked like gravel to me, while Plus-X was so slow I felt like I was pushing that boulder up the hill. We made do, of course, and a lot of good photos were taken, but there was some stuff you just couldn't do.

Now, though, I can't think of anything I really need. I have a D800. It's fast enough for everything I do, the resolution is more than I need, the form factor and ergonomics are just fine. In fact, I think it's as much as anybody needs. I'd like the 850 because...I'd like the 850. Pure GAS. I don't need it. When I went from a Spotmatic to an F3, I felt like there'd been revolution; when I went to an F4, another revolution; and the automation of the F5 was a revelation and just great...until I got my hands on a D3.

Now? Meh. I may some day get a more advanced Nikon, but I don't *need* it.

Sounds like a fabulous camera, merging high speed with high resolution. The crop-free 4K video is very nice; Canon continues to cynically hobble their D-SLRs' video capabilities to avoid cannibalizing their profitable high end video camera business. This would drive me crazy if I had the faintest interest in video.

I say booorrring. There's nothing new that really matters.

Iterations are justified as long as the price remains the same. But every iteration has been more expensive than the previous model.

The few novelties do not justify the added cost, imo. It would be wiser to buy the second best d810 or d800 now that the d850 appears.

I think we should all be happy that today's camera makers are actively seeking refinement. I am in awe of the specs of the market's most recent models, even as I realize that for a guy with a seven year old computer, Windows 7, and an actual licensed copy of Photoshop 5 I face a bigger hurdle than most to get "modern." New file types require the latest software, new file sizes require the latest hardware -- all of it acts as a multiplier in my current technological cul-de-sac.

So two weeks ago, I went in a different direction. I bought a used Pentax K-5 for $250 off of e-bay, and 28-35-50-100-135 Pentax M primes for a pittance, also off e-bay. The camera actually runs off AA's with its optional battery pack, the lenses are superb, and the dang thing makes RAW files in Adobe's DNG format. And it has IBIS -- the thing is a practically future-proof picture taking machine.

I am try to ride the "trailing edge" of technological innovation.

So: I want you all to go out and buy this amazing new camera -- then sell your nasty old used up equipment on e-bay to me. And if you are interested in superbly engineered (to last a lifetime) manual focus multicoated prime lenses? . . .I'm telling you there has never been a better time to buy.

@ Mike: you need to figure out some revenue sharing with eBay . . . that's where I seem to be spending all my money these days. And on lenses from Japan too. Man, do they arrive well taken care of.

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The only interesting thing about this camera, is that it shoots film.

Hmmm, it may be a nice camera but it will retail for 3799,99 euro ($4500) here in Europe according to today's Nikon ad. And for that price it does not even come with the computer upgrade needed to deal with those 46MP images....

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