Written by John Lehet*
My picture for the current TOP sale, the morning glory bud, was made on the Sony A7rII with a Tokina AT-X 90mm ƒ/2.5 Macro wide open at ƒ/2.5.
The lens is manual focus and between 20 and 30 years old. It's nicknamed the "Bokina" (not just by me)—for its beautiful bokeh, of course. I got the Bokina (I'll forego the quote marks for the rest of this post) last summer, and fell in love with it.
The Bokina was made for about 10 years starting in 1986. While I have another contemporaneous lens that can match or beat the Bokina's bokeh (the Olympus OM Zuiko 90mm ƒ/2 Macro, at over three times the price), no modern lens I have used does so. The Bokina is sturdy, with good mechanics. At 530 grams without the adapter, it's a bit lighter than my Sony 90mm ƒ/2.8 OSS. While less flare resistant than its modern counterparts, and lacking autofocus, the only reason I see not to carry it everywhere would be its weight—which is still not too bad. To quibble just a bit, when stopped down the aperture shape may show in "bokeh balls," and especially at ƒ/4 this turns out to be not a good shape. Often the aperture shape can be pleasing and not distracting.
Now an eBay treasure, the manual-focus 1986–96 Tokina AT-X 90mm ƒ/2.5 Macro, AKA the "Bokina," was sold in many different lensmounts and now sells in the $200–400 range with or without its dedicated 1:1 extender.
The Bokina is as sharp as you would ever want a lens to be, even on the unforgiving sensor of the A7rII, and the bokeh is creamy and beautiful at any aperture up to ƒ/11. (I never stop down past that.)
Formerly normal
It was a precipitous and slippery slope that led me into buying the Sony and using weird old lenses. Less than a year ago, I was "normal"—a modern photographer using modern autofocus lenses. Buying the Sony A7rII, and then the exploration of manual focus lenses that followed, was definitely Mike's fault, because he gave it the Camera of the Year award. At the time I posted in the comments something like, "OK, a good camera maybe, but what about lenses?!" Like many looking at the Sony E-mount lens selection at that point, I was both puzzled and sticker-shocked. Zeiss had some good lenses for the system, quite expensive of course. Sony or Sony/Zeiss had a few primes, also relatively expensive. Sony had some zooms, also expensive and heavy, and not particularly stellar in tests.
Previously I had been using two Micro 4/3 cameras (one of them infrared) and a Nikon D800E. I never really made friends with the D800E despite working with it a lot, but I enjoyed exploring the broader range of possibilities that the larger sensor made available in terms of bokeh. The lenses for both systems were pretty good: sharp and lightweight, with good if not flawless bokeh. All I could imagine was that by comparison, I would be in for a world of financial pain in the Sony system.
Before springing for the A7rII I went through all the lens options several times. I'd look at all the lens options again and again and gasp at the prices. Along with another autofocus prime, I bought both the autofocus Sony 55mm ƒ/1.8 FE and the manual-focus Zeiss Loxia 50mm ƒ/2 so I could compare them and decide which one to keep. Overall, I liked the feel of the manual-focus Loxia. I tested the two lenses against each other every possible way, and I actually found that I was hitting better focus manually than if I let the Sony lens autofocus. I found I was reaching for the Loxia if I had both in the bag. Hmm. Maybe manual focus isn't actually so bad? In the end I preferred the Loxia's sharpness stopped down, and also, in scrutinizing the pictures, I determined it had a more pleasing character. This was new for me, to pick one lens over another for something so subjective.
With magnification in the high-res EVF, the Sony made manual focus easy. I felt a little hampered and slow sometimes at first, while other times focusing manually was a clear advantage. This past Christmas I photographed with the Loxia 50mm and I found manual focus to be far more enjoyable and workable than autofocus, my most enjoyable Christmas photography ever. In the end I came to prefer manual focus.
On to eBay
The Loxia set the stage; it taught me I could live without AF, and that I liked manual aperture rings. Pretty soon I was on eBay.
It turns out that there is not a dearth of lenses for the Sony A7 system, as I had thought, but a dizzying array of amazingly excellent options. Some are quite inexpensive, and some are off the charts. Almost all of these vintage options don't have autofocus.
I've now bought a large handful of manual focus lenses for the system—mostly older, often inexpensive, sometimes really good. Certain vintages of the Olympus OM Zuiko 50mm ƒ/1.4 MC, for example, are as good as can be—really nice bokeh and super-sharp at most apertures—for under $140. I'm just as happy to have this inexpensive lens in my bag as any other 50mm I can think of.
The current rogue's gallery of non-EXIF non-native lenses
With the vintage lenses I have no idea of modern test results. The Sony sensor is unforgiving, and I started testing hard myself. I had already started this with the Loxia 50mm vs. Sony 55mm comparisons. I wasn't just looking at the sharpness; I started looking at all these lenses in terms I had not particularly appreciated in my modern lens purchases: character. And indeed, many of my modern lenses didn't show much character except in their flaws. I was finding a different kind of character—the style of rendering—crafted into these optics by masters of old.
Really looking at the effects of aperture
With the old lenses I didn't have EXIF, so to capture the aperture info I started indexing: going through all reasonable stops starting wide open. I record those f-stops as keywords in Lightroom, which means a greater degree of scrutiny and awareness of aperture as I review each image on screen. For each composition in the field I would start with ƒ/1.4 on a fast lens even if I knew ƒ/1.4 wasn't particularly good on that lens and that I might throw that exposure away: ƒ/1.4, ƒ/2, ƒ/2.8, and on down.
In doing this, I became much more in tune with lenses/focal lengths/apertures, and just generally how optics behave. Thirty years as a serious photographer, and it took this to get me here: the combination of digital capture ease with old lenses and manual apertures. (I could never afford the time and film to do this kind of thing in my old view camera days!). But now I have a lot of image data, and it has taken a lot of time to evaluate. I have to sift through my vintage lens collection, but I will probably end up with more as I sell some.
The only thing I can remember that has improved my photography as much as exploring all these old lenses aperture by aperture was when I got my Pentax Spot V light meter way back in 1980.
All in all, buying, testing, and trying old lenses on the Sony A7rII has been a very fun, eye-opening adventure.
And the Bokina is definitely a keeper.
John
*John says various members of his family pronounce their last name in different ways. He, like his father, prefers "LEE-ut"; his children are more apt to say "luh-HET." He's given up on trying to correct strangers and just accepts whatever they say—although I doubt he'd be okay with what Siri says when I ask my iPhone to call him—"Calling John Lennet!" —MJ
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Rob de Loe: "I went down the legacy lens rabbit hole in 2015. There's lots of wonderful old glass out there. Many Canon FD lenses are excellent; I'm not using that line anymore because I needed to adapt them to a Canon EF mount, and the one person who had a good system for changing over the mounts got sick. I'm now using SMC Pentax-A 645 lenses with a pair of Mirex tilt-shift adapters on a Sony A7r. It works a treat.
"One tip for anyone using adapted lenses and Lightroom: Dirk Essl's fantastic little plugin "Lens Tagger" is an excellent way to add the missing EXIF information (model, aperture, focal length, etc.) You have to keep notes, which won't work for everyone, but if you do it's a small extra step in your workflow. I like to know at least what lens it was, and most lenses on my A7r are primes so it's not difficult.
"I put my phone to work to help out. Google's 'Keep' app lets you take a picture of what you're shooting, and then record some text notes. It also picks up the GPS coordinates (something else I like to track).
"In part because of Mike's enthusiasm, I've now introduced a Fuji X-T1 into my bag. It scratches a different photographic itch. I actually like to carry both cameras with me to cover all the bases.
"One last tip: as of January 5th 2017 Iridient X Developer is now available and it does a brilliant job of developing Fuji X-Trans files. It turns them into DNGs which you can then bring into Lightroom. The difference has to be seen to be believed (lots of examples are popping up in a thread on Fredmiranda.com)."
Barry Reid: "I don't really test lenses but I can very much relate to John's comments on the Sony/Zeiss 55mm ƒ/1.8. Arguably this lens typifies all that is bad in modern lens design—it is just too perfect with knockout sharpness, bags of contrast and minimal CA, it has no obvious flaws and immediately impresses when first used. Yet like a sugar hit it faded over time and I gradually started leaving it at home in favour of its 35mm ƒ/2.8 sibling or some of my old Contax/Yashica glass because, while it may get great DxO scores, it lacks an intangible character which some of my other lenses deliver."
Paul Racicot: "I have been using the 'Bokina' lens since the early '90s. Still in my camera bag along with the 1:1 extension. Never entered my mind to ever let it go even after buying several Nikon AF infinity to 1:1 lenses. I think I'll keep it a while longer."
Arend Vermazaren: "Reference should be made to Philip Reeve and his website on using manual focus lenses on the Sony A7. He also tested the Bokina back in 2014."
Mike adds: People can find a lot on the Internet about this lens, by Googling either "bokina" or "Tokina 90mm ƒ/2.5" or both. Philip Reeve's article might be the best single thing.
Last year Mike wrote ...
The key is to be clear and forthright about your taste, your prejudices, and your own needs, and then to go ahead and write or perform the review as if you were yourself.
Today John Lehet wrote ...
This was new for me, to pick one lens over another for something so subjective.
... proving Mike's point.
It's the pictures.
Posted by: Speed | Saturday, 07 January 2017 at 02:09 PM
You have to love the old legacy lenses. It was also my path back into photography and can vouch for the off brand 90mm macro lenses. I grabbed this photo with another favorite - a Nikon 75-150mm f/3.5 Series E AI-s. It was getting ready to sell it, took a sample shot for the sale and it went viral (at least for me) on flickr. Shot at 3.5 of a flower in our garden.
[Nice one. That's another honey of a lens. As famous as that lens was--it was very popular among some very high-end fashion photographers for instance--I've always wondered why Nikon didn't just reissue the exact same design in an AF mount. --Mike]
Posted by: Stephen R Walker | Saturday, 07 January 2017 at 02:17 PM
John, congratulations on the print sale! I'm glad I got my Bokina before this article came out, as I suspect its price may be going up because of this post. I love it for portraits on a DX crop camera, and landscapes on an FX camera. And as you know, it holds up well even when used on a modern small-pixel pitch camera such as your A7RII.
Here's one sample from a D810 and probably stopped down to f/8. Ignore the weird EXIF information: the D810 doesn't seem to believe that 90mm lenses exist!
Posted by: Andre Y | Saturday, 07 January 2017 at 04:45 PM
A lovely photo and a lovely lens.
Over ten years ago a photographer named Todd Owyoung wrote an extended review of this lens under the moniker of "tao.design." It created quite a stir among Nikon users at a time when the dramatic shift to digital led many photographers to replace their older lenses with AF-based designs.
I, too, would not be surprised to see another burst of interest of interest in this lens amongst photographers now.
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/13056277
Alex
Posted by: Alex Vesey | Saturday, 07 January 2017 at 06:43 PM
An interesting parallel to my adventures in FF Mirrorless and old/odd lenses.
I didn't enter through the gate of high res, though. I'd been playing with lenses that make images often far from sharp contrasty and clear, off and on, going back to film days. I'd been getting some good images on µ4/3, but felt limited. The lenses I had already and those I wanted to try were really FF lenses, and not as "good" on µ4/3.
As neither resolution nor IS were of great importance, I bought a used A7. I've used it exclusively for my alt.moose work, staying with my conventional gear for regular photography. I've made a lot of images I like, although I have much more to learn.
Like you, I've had to take a lot of sample shots at various apertures to get a sense of what these lenses do.
The main menagerie is smaller than yours:
Tamron 28/2.8 T-mount
Super Lentar 35/2.8 T-mount
LensBaby Velvet 56 56/1.6
Holga 60/8
Minolta Varisoft 85/2.8
SIMA Soft Focus 100/2.0 T-mount
Sankor 135/2.8 T-mount
generic Pinhole
The early, pre computer design lenses do some interesting things at larger apertures. This with the Sankor 135/2.8
With digital, it's also possible to combine effects, as with the old SIMA Soft Focus 100/2, at three of its Waterhouse stops.
Then there's the local club of LensBaby Optic Swap System lenses, with straight and bendy mounts. I don't like the kind of images they tout, finding them mostly tedious, but find they can do other very nice things.
I still have my whole line of OM Zuikos from 18 to 500 mm and many other old MF lenses in OM or Tamron Adaptall mount.
Most of those won't end up on the A7, although the 500/8 mirror just did. The last version of the 50/1.4, for example, is indeed an excellent lens, but doesn't fit my purpose there. I'll just use the Panny 42.5/1.7 on an E-M5 II.
Posted by: Moose | Saturday, 07 January 2017 at 11:50 PM
I'd like to state a contrary view on using legacy lenses. Since moving from Pentax to Fuji x I feel simply relieved about the relative lack of choice. I've got my home, for me, focal length covered (30mm approx), the rest I make do with using a 16-55 zoom. I find it hugely relieving.
Posted by: Nigli | Sunday, 08 January 2017 at 03:04 AM
to Nigli, Yes, I totally understand the relief of "lack of choice" I sort of do it both ways. When I've got a new prime, it's usually glued to the camera. I use it and use it and use it until I see through it. However since I've done this with my other lenses, I can also see the frame through them. It's like being clicked into one view of the world, but then I can also sometimes, even with a new-old lens glued on there, click back to one of my other favorites. Also there is only so much I can carry, and especially since I'm carrying the infrared camera. Usually for the FF it's just three primes, maybe four.
Also to give some credit in my alt-lens exploration, I started out heartened by Brian Smith's web pages. He gives a lot of advice about adapting lenses for the Sony, very generous -- but he is mostly talking about adapting modern AF lenses.
And then a lot of credit also goes to Phillip Reeve, who published lots of thorough and beautifully presented info on using inexpensive MF lenses. I didn't stumble on Phillip's great site until I had already made the plunge into Sony, so he helped me with the shift.
Posted by: John Lehet | Sunday, 08 January 2017 at 07:00 AM
Oh, and one bit of pith instruction: the A7Rii has IBIS, of course. With these lenses the camera will not know the focal length of the lens. You must set this for the IBIS to work properly. Trust me on this. When you set it, of course, the IBIS works beautifully.
If you have one alt lens, it's no big deal: you set it, and then your modern lenses will take over when they are on the camera. If you have more than one alt lens, the trick is to set up one of the function buttons to bring this option up, and then you turn the dial on the camera. The only trouble is remembering this, but one (usually) gets used to it.
Posted by: John Lehet | Sunday, 08 January 2017 at 07:30 AM
This inspires me to get out my old OM / Zuiko macro set and play with it on a 5D. I'd always intended to but never got round to it. (20mm f3.5 / 80mm f4 / 135mm f4.5).
I still use the 50mm f3.5 regularly but it doesn't need the bellows/extension tube
Posted by: Richard Tugwell | Sunday, 08 January 2017 at 10:15 AM
Love my old lenses but unfortunately, for me a lot of the magic is at the edges of the frame - all that "terrible" vignetting, softness and distortion - and hence they're never quite the same affair on a crop sensor.
Posted by: Ade | Sunday, 08 January 2017 at 12:24 PM
I've been using legacy Pentax lenses on my K1 and finding the occasional gem. But for some reason the best ones seem hard to find on Ebay these days. Sony has long tentacles. : ).
Good luck with the sale.
Posted by: John Krumm | Sunday, 08 January 2017 at 12:30 PM
I've been shooting with a Sony A7r mounted onto a Cambo Actus "mini view camera." My lens kit consists of Rodenstock Rodagons (APO 80/4 N, WA 60mm/4, 135mm/5.6), and an EL-Nikkor 105mm/5.6.
The results are fabulous. The image circles of the above mentioned lenses allow for generous movements along the back standard of the Actus (rise/fall and shift). The front standard is great for extending depth of field.
The enlarger lenses are sharp, contrasty (later MC versions), and virtually free of CA and linear distortion. They employ 5-6 aperture blades.I can't comment about bokeh, as I like everything in the frame to be razor sharp. Surprisingly, they are relatively flare resistant. It's important to remember to cover the aperture windows with black tape to avoid light leaks.
Posted by: Bob Rosinsky | Sunday, 08 January 2017 at 12:59 PM
John,
re. vintage lenses: Almost two years ago, I switched from a Nikon D90 to a pre-used Nikon D800. My main motivation was to be able to use prime lenses; I always work in terms of projects, and prime lenses help to keep the perspective consistent. Like you, I photograph the landscape, so precise focussing and depth of field control is essential. I found AF was more an impediment than a gain.
Since then, my main lens is a 35mm f/2.8 AiS PC-Nikkor. I take about 90% of my pictures with this lens, the rest with a 50mm f/1.8 Ai Nikkor (not the pancake). Manual focus and DOF preview is not a problem using the excellent live view of the D800, and the pre-exposure histogram makes exposure easy.
As I was used to the 16-85mm Nikkor zoom I used on the D90, it took me a bit of time to accommodate myself to the different look of these old lenses. They are less 'punchy', have less saturation, contrast and microcontrast, but stopped down they are easily good enough for 36MP. If one wants more 'punch', this can easily be added during post processing ('punch' is actually easier to add then to remove).
I came to actually prefer the look of these old Nikkors. The prints look very nice, less digital/clinical, more 'organic'. Currently, I feel no itch to purchase modern AF lenses.
Best, Thomas
Posted by: Thomas Rink | Sunday, 08 January 2017 at 03:07 PM
I too have been using adapted lenses for as long as Sony have been shipping the NEX family of cameras and I've probably had all the successes and frustrations we read about. Most of the frustrations I've experienced are traceable to the quality of the adapters. I own way more Sony/Nikon adapters than I'd like to admit and I've found a few I like but it surprises me that with all the bandwidth dedicated to the pros and cons of an adapted approach we see very little discussion of which adapters are working well and which just don't make the grade.
Posted by: John A. Abee | Sunday, 08 January 2017 at 06:21 PM
The real hidden gem there, is, as you subtly mentioned, the OM 90/2.
Posted by: Jim | Sunday, 08 January 2017 at 06:37 PM
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Never done this before but I'm trying to embed an image taken with a Sony A7r and an Olympus OM Zuiko 135mm f2.8 lens.
I've found that the ability to adapt lenses to the A7r has breathed new life into my collection of OM and M lenses. I find them much more pleasing that modern AF designs.
Posted by: Paul Amyes | Sunday, 08 January 2017 at 07:47 PM
Interesting re John Lehet's last name pronunciation. Absent that footnote, I might have said "le-HAY"
I've had my name mispronounced my whole life, except in grades K-5, where the parochial school teachers were all Polish-speaking nuns. No, my name doesn't have strings of Z's and S's and C's bunched together, or weird accent marks, isn't very long, and doesn't end in "ski."
[Funny story along those lines...when I lived in Chicago my brother and sister in law's cleaning lady came to my house one morning a week, the only time I've ever had cleaning help. Her name was Maria Kwasnica. Anyway one time I was sick and needed to call her to tell her not to come, so I called my sister-in-law, who is first-generation American born of Polish parents, to ask for the proper pronunciation of her last name. It was close to "kvash-NEETS-ah." Anyway, freshly coached, I called Maria's number, and her husband answered, and when I asked to speak to her, he began speaking to me rapidly in Polish! When I told him I spoke no Polish at all, he was astonished and couldn't believe it at first.
It turned out that in all his years here he had never heard an English-speaking American pronounce his last name correctly, and when he heard me say it right he just assumed I had to speak Polish. :-) --Mike]
Posted by: MikeR | Sunday, 08 January 2017 at 08:21 PM
I was a late adopter of digital because I was wedded to a lovely Tokina 17mm lens on 35mm. I sold it on eBay with sob in my heart. The new owner emailed me a few weeks later saying it was a lens that made him want to go out and take pictures. Yes, I agreed, lots of character! :)
Cheers, Geoff
Posted by: Geoffrey Heard | Sunday, 08 January 2017 at 10:28 PM
I'd say my only complaint about my Fujifilm cameras is the lack of IBIS so that legacy lenses, especially longer focal lengths, get that extra little crispness help. On a tripod my Rolleinar 85mm f/2.8 is stellar. At lower ISOs, handheld, not so much.
Posted by: Jim Simmons | Monday, 09 January 2017 at 02:21 AM
Ahhhh, legacy glass. That's the pretentious way of saying it these days, but I love the idea of being able to adapt lenses to my camera. I loved my A7R the most for that reason, and never understood the "no lenses" nonsense---there were hundreds of them!....and then ironically partly gave it up for that reason. I traded it (and more stuff in) for a Pentax K1, on which I'm using a bunch of....legacy glass. But this time w/o adapters.
And that was the awkward thing about the A7 series, that the adapters were either literally awkward (for, say, Contax G lenses...I had 2, and they were great)or kinda big (for my Tamron 28-75 A mount, or my Pentax lenses). So a lot of the compactness of the A7 series cameras was wiped out, and I was left with....a cramped UI.
So, on to a 645Z, which is big and heavy (try it one handed while holding a flash out at arms length!) but oh so wonderful UI wise, just an excellent size with plenty of room between buttons. And legacy glass: I only have one new lens for it, and that one I bought used, and everything else is older or just plain old, and works marvelously. Thank you backwardly-compatible Pentax! Both of your flagship cameras work with your whole lens lineup back to screw-mount.
Old lenses rule.
Posted by: tex andrews | Monday, 09 January 2017 at 09:10 AM
This is obvious and familiar to many no doubt, but I have been surprised to find that several lenses whose character on film left me cold, despite their sterling reputations, became absolute gems when used with a digital camera. A couple of years ago, I bought a new Nikon d7000 at close-out ($450), and after going through my cupboard of Nikkors, discovered that the 105/2.5 (Planar) and 45/2.8P (Tessar) rendered beautifully on that camera's sensor, while the AF85/1.8 and AFD180/2.8 whose character on various film emulsions I admire did indifferently (and this is not just a reflection of cropping). No doubt there is the issue of unit-to-unit variation, but above and beyond, I now assume that occasionally there will be serendipitously outstanding matches between lenses and sensors (including emulsions), and there is no substitute for testing in the field with specific cameras(films) and lenses.
Posted by: Adrian | Monday, 09 January 2017 at 10:15 AM
This post really makes me miss manual focus lenses. I like adjusting the aperture ring and focusing myself just like I enjoy having a manual transmission in a car. Even if I am a poor photographer at least I'm having fun taking photos and I feel like I have some input in the process. I just wish someone would make an affordable Pentax MX digital full-frame - manual focus but full frame so the "legacy" lenses can be used the way they were designed. While I am wishing, I also wish I could take photo like Philip Reeve!
I remember reading great things about this lens but mostly as a macro and not related to the bokeh. Now I want one but hopefully the price will come down a bit. Speaking of price, I'll only ever use the lens on a film camera since the full frame Sony costs mucho dinero!
Posted by: Jona | Tuesday, 10 January 2017 at 10:24 AM
I'll point out that Tokina also manufactured this lens for Vivitar, who called it the Vivitar Series 1 90mm f/2.5 macro. I owned a copy some years ago (without the 1:1 converter) and I concur it was lovely. However, at the time I also owned the Sigma 90mm f/2.8 macro and the Tamron equivalent (both in AF mount). In a burst of common sense I sold the Tamron and the Vivitar, because "who needs 3 macro lenses of the same focal length?".
To this day I regret selling the Vivitar Bokina, and I bet it would've worked beautifully on my new Fuji X-T2. Sigh...
Posted by: Miserere | Wednesday, 11 January 2017 at 07:46 AM