Bernie's '35 Ford, a GX8 picture from this post
...And by "little" I mean 13x17.3mm!
The latest Micro 4/3 chip—20.3 MP Live MOS
With all the current excitement about the oversize-sensor Fuji GFX-50S and Hasselblad X1D-50c, I probably shouldn't mention this, but my favorite sensor at the moment is the new 20.3-MP Live MOS sensor making its way into the top end of Micro 4/3 offerings. (If you would like to read about the technology, here ya go, knock yourself out.)
So far, the only cameras that have it are the Panasonic GX8, the new super-duper (and super-expensive) Olympus E-M1 Mark II, the Olympus Pen-F, and the forthcoming Panasonic GH5.
Is it "better"? Well, I confess to not being too concerned about that. I like it, though, which concerns me more.
I like it a lot. I love the "grain" at ISO 3200...what I mean is, its noise looks a lot like film grain. And the images at all speeds have a certain "bite" to them that bigger sensors with "smoother tonality" seem to struggle with. I've only used the GX8 with the Panasonic 12–35mm (currently on sale for $300 off because it's being replaced with a slightly revised version).
It must be the most flexible sensor yet in Micro 4/3, too. It corrects easily. I even (gasp!) like the look of mildly HDR'd images (like the Impala in the "Go, Bernie, Go!" post linked in the first caption). Finally, it might not have the most detail, but it's got a really nice way of rendering detail that I find pleasing. I've always liked high large-structure contrast (the lowest lp/mm line in an MTF chart), and this new sensor is good at that "look." Maybe that's the lens, too.
Note that the blog software kind of tromples the value of these illustrations qua evidence, but if you accept them as mere illustrations and just take my word for it you'll get the basic idea.
Out-of-camera JPEG
Crop of the raw file with the "sliders slammed," the intention being to
match the visual impression of the scene. The file holds up well.
I'm not saying the dynamic range is endless; it's not like a top Nikon FF sensor. In fact, this Micro 4/3 20.3-MP Live MOS sensor is not the ultimate, or perfect, or the best at this or that. (Doesn't do quite as well with B&W as Fuji's X-Trans, for example; the color isn't quite as luscious as Canon's FF sensors; you won't be able to dive into distant detail like you can with the A7rII. Et cetera.) But...
It's just that I really like the look of the pictures. And it seems to do all the technical-checklist things well enough. No shortcomings that I discovered during the time I had with it, or while geeking-out over the files of the pictures I took.
The pictures have a crispness and a "filmlike" contrast
and noise/grain that I find appealing.
(Rats, this detail just looks a lot better on my monitor
than it does here. Oh well.)
Please note I'm not saying I don't like the look of other sensors. (The one in your camera is particularly nice, so no worries!) Just saying I really do like this one.
Mike
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Nigel: "One way the sensor tromples all over the competition is readout speed; in the Olympus E-M1 Mark II it enables 60 frames per second shooting. Looking forward to the GH5 when it comes out...."
John Sarsgard: "I think I've mentioned in an earlier post that I love my GX8 and this sensor. I do not expect it to compete with my 4x5 in rendering detail, but I love it like I would likely love the new Leica digital if I had the money.
"But maybe I love it more because it is a democratic camera. One does not have to be wealthy and attracted to the artifacts of wealth to enjoy a camera this good that has a sensor this good. And it feels wonderful in the hand. If you don't like the way it works, almost everything is customizable. The silent shutter is elegant. People that know a little about cameras see me shooting on the street with it and ask if it is the new Leica. I tell them it's the democratic version."
Kivi Shaps: "Been using the GX8 for four months now. Got it in the 12–60mm zoom lens deal. Promptly sold the zoom and started to experiment with different primes. Settled on the Leica 15mm ƒ/1.7 (30mm equivalent). Love it for street shooting and even did two indoor events with pleasing results. I came over from a Nikon D7200 and a Leica M9. Peachy."
Mike, have you considered providing a link to larger sample images at Flickr or some other photo sharing site? That might be useful in some cases where you want to make a point but are limited by your blog software. By the way, I also have a GX8 and agree with you about the quality of its files and the "grain" they produce.
Posted by: Steve Muskie | Tuesday, 24 January 2017 at 01:37 PM
How dare you suggest that those little 20mp 4/3 sensors are pleasing and give film-like results!
According to DXO the newest version in the EM1 Mark II is the best yet, which has sparked some angry discussions.
My own latest sensor find is not my still mostly new K1, but my newer Ricoh GR ll, which uses a fairly old 16mp aps-c Sony, I think. A good sensor combined with a super lens means I'm enjoying even my bad photos more...
Posted by: John Krumm | Tuesday, 24 January 2017 at 03:05 PM
But do the GX8, Pen-F and E-M1 MkII all have the same sensor? I don't know myself (and I don't know how one would confirm or repudiate that, without having insider knowledge), but I'm sure there are smart people around who can talk freely and share educated guesses.
Posted by: Kalli | Tuesday, 24 January 2017 at 03:44 PM
Yes I like this sensor too. I'm shooting a recently acquired Pen F and like the results very much, quite a bit more than those of my original E-M1.
Posted by: Marcelo Guarini | Tuesday, 24 January 2017 at 03:49 PM
I'm convinced, in some camera iterations, that regardless of the sensor size and resolution, it's the Gestalten of the whole camera package that drives the collective output of the image. Sort of like the best year of that vintage wine... I think one sees this throughout the development of the digital form. A manufacturer works on the hardware, software and lenses to get things just right, and sometimes they hit the mark.
Posted by: Bob gary | Tuesday, 24 January 2017 at 03:51 PM
Those of us who have come to the realization that our camera (or lenses) is "good enough" will enjoy much more satisfaction with our photography while those who keep chasing the elusive next best thing will never quite find that same pleasure. When is "good enough" good enough? All current digital cameras are now good enough and it is us that have shortcomings, not our gear.
Posted by: Dennis Mook | Tuesday, 24 January 2017 at 04:29 PM
The silent shutter is elegant.
To me, this is one essential attraction of the mirrorless camera, and why I (with regret) bade farewell to my Pentax*. In the three years I've owned my GX7, the mechanical shutter has been used maybe a dozen times.
*The discovery that the old M42 and M37 Takumars played well with M4/3 was a consolation.
Posted by: Nigel | Tuesday, 24 January 2017 at 05:04 PM
Mm..., who says the GX8, E-M1 Mark II, Pen-F, and GH5 have the same sensor? DXO in its recent review of the E-M1 II put it head 'n' shoulders above the GX8 and Pen-F in the noise department. I mean a Low-Light ISO of 1300 over 800 or 900 respectively is quite something and puts the Oly in D7200 territory. Gee, who woulda thunk that would ever happen.
Posted by: Hendrik | Tuesday, 24 January 2017 at 05:16 PM
A technical correction: that's a CMOS image sensor not an NMOS sensor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMOS
The LiveMOS brand has been around for some time and is used by both Panasonic and Olympus.
It started off referring to Panasonic's CMOS image sensors in the original FourThirds and first three generations of micro FourThirds cameras. Then came the OMD E-M5 with a Sony sensor and Olympus kept calling it a "LiveMOS" sensor. I guess they didn't want Panasonic to loose face.
Now the brand has no relation to the sensor technology or maker. Olympus (and Panasonic) have called both Sony manufactured and Panasonic manufactured CIS "LiveMOS". It's a meaningless term.
I would guess the Sony IMX269 sensor is in all of these cameras. It's the only announced 20.3Mpx CIS. If Panasonic are manufacturing a 20Mpx type 4/3" CIS they haven't released it's data sheet (AFAIK) but then again neither have Sony. You'd need a camera teardown to confirm this (and the PDAF cameras would be using a customized version of the sensor).
e.g
http://www.sony-semicon.co.jp/products_en/IS/sensor2/products/index.html
http://www.43rumors.com/ft5-pen-f-confirmed-to-use-the-new-sony-20mp-sensor-not-announced-at-ces/
http://www.sansmirror.com/cameras/camera-database/olympus-m43-cameras/olympus-pen-f.html
The Dxomark measurements for all the 20Mpx mFT cameras are all the same (within measurement error) so there seems to be just one 20Mpx 4/3" sensor out there.
Posted by: Kevin Purcell | Tuesday, 24 January 2017 at 07:53 PM
Glad to see another person who noticed. Since I got my hands on the PenF I noticed it had something peculiar about it. Keep color pretty well into the high ISO. The highlight range seems pretty good (and not sure how much was Olympus shifting the DR window up but seems like there's something special going on here).
But regardless as you said- the files are good. I wish I could like the PenF as much as I like its files. I find several usability issues with it. But love the files and love the JPEG engine Olympus put in it.
Posted by: raist3d | Tuesday, 24 January 2017 at 10:58 PM
Gotta say, I love the lowly 16mp sensor on the Oly E-M5 II, especially with the Pro Oly glass. I have played with the Pen F and am duly impressed.
I've learned how to get a consistent "look" with the Oly files. I hesitate to compare Oly files to A7r files. Both cameras compliment each other. I agree totally with Mike's comments about big sensors versus small. Sometimes, less is more.
Posted by: Bob Rosinsky | Tuesday, 24 January 2017 at 11:27 PM
By the way, Butters is a lighter version of our darling (recently deceased) Jazz. I felt a pang in my heart when I saw closeup crop of B.
Posted by: Bob Rosinsky | Tuesday, 24 January 2017 at 11:37 PM
Indeed, Micro 4/3 offers some nice 'cameras for the road'. It's a code name I have been using to describe smallish, tough setups which can cope with anything thrown at them producing decent (though not "perfect") results.
When I was younger I used to backpack a lot with an OM2s and a couple of primes thrown in my rucksack among the rest of my belongings. It's taken digital a while to catch up, but I think Micro 4/3 is about right for that. Many small circa f/1.8 primes to choose from and the occasional grain is indeed film-like.
Posted by: sneye | Wednesday, 25 January 2017 at 04:42 AM
Mike. Great article and a perception that has been "mulling" around the old brain-box for a while. As you have said there is NO bad camera out there now. We have now reached the point I believe of not being seduced by technology improving our ability in taking pictures but to choose our preferences in taking our pictures depending on the technology available. Is the choice of different sensors in different cameras and their tweaking by say, "fuji" the new Film choice. I choose fuji I like the results. B&W rendering, the Classic Chrome jpgs not to mention details in RAW. I tend to keep things simple in post production using Lightroom and some presets. Camera technology will I am sure improve as time goes on but does it have to. A box with a hole and medium to capture the image has all that we have needed.
People have asked for B&W only cameras, stripped down versions, no video, no simulations, gimmicks etc. Less inside the box but like women shoes less costs more ! Leica so far has been the only taker. I would love a stripped down X100 series. But I choose to now go backward and invested in an original mint X100 to complement my X100t. A bayer sensor does render a difference to trans. So, have `I taken the first steps in this undertaking choosing my camera by sensor to achieve results and not being seduced by the "NEW" old 12 mp and not 24mp.
Mike, keep up the good work and provoking comments, I read it every day. Thanks for the space to write this. regards martyn
Posted by: martyn elwell | Wednesday, 25 January 2017 at 05:56 AM
On the fence to buy the Pen F I find this thread interesting...thanks
robert
Posted by: robert quiet photographer | Wednesday, 25 January 2017 at 06:41 AM
Does the GX85 have that same sensor. [No. --Mike] Whilst I love my E-M5 I also feel that the besuty of Micro 4/3 is its potential for small size and portability. I was tempted by the GM5 but I thought it was TOO small and fiddly .... but a GX85 with a 15mm to 17mm prime might hit the sweet spot.
The Pen F is a thing of beauty but I think Panasonic do produce small elegant cameras at a great price point.
I do hope this has the same sensor as it might have this perfect Goldilocks size for walkaround...not too big and not too small...just right!
Posted by: Tom Bell | Wednesday, 25 January 2017 at 09:14 AM
@John Sarsgard: I understand what you mean, but I need to note that the M is priced in a way that allows EU production at EU wages and EU working conditions. There's a strong case to be made that this is more democratic than the conditions that result in more 'affordable' cameras.
Posted by: David Emerson | Wednesday, 25 January 2017 at 06:05 PM
Over Christmas I rented a Pen F and the new Olympus 25 f/1.2. Such a shame that I can't afford a $1200 camera or a $1200 lens right now because that was a delightful combination.
Posted by: Cliff R. | Wednesday, 25 January 2017 at 09:18 PM