Sensor madness!
Posts on TOP have "energy." That's what I call it. I guess "interest" is just as good a word, if a bit anodyne. I can tell a topic has energy first if it draws a lot of comments, but also, if it continues to draw comments after the conversation has moved on.
Sensors are beautiful things. So are lenses, so was film, and you are talking with a man who once loved a film developer. I know, sounds kinky. But D-76 1:1...be still, my heart. I'm getting very fond of sensors, too. They're amazing devices. Just look what they can do. And the progress in their development over the last 15 years is astonishing.
So we're kicking off a new (truncated) week. We had an utterly beautiful 4th of July weekend here. This area does high-pressure systems better than anywhere I've ever lived or even seen. The overcast moved in on Monday evening just as the holiday was ending and the crowds were leaving the lakeshore. The weather changes quickly around here.
Hope yours was a good 'un too.
The topic that had the most energy last week was the one about sensor size, which I would have thought is ground that's already been burned over. People are still sending in comments about that, and that post is way down in the stack now. So this is something a lot of photographers think about. And possibly wrestle with.
So with the caveat that I have utterly no wish to argue, or advocate for anything in particular, a question to kick off the new week: if you've committed to one sensor size for most of your cameras, what do you like, and why?
Lovely camera; wish it were APS-C
I hope we can keep status-jockeying out of the conversation. I have one professional friend (Kirk Tuck of VSL) who is lately a devotee of 1" sensors. Ctein makes beautiful 17x22" prints and as far as I know has never seen the need to own anything digital larger than Micro 4/3. Another pro friend (Jack MacDonough), who makes large prints and sells them to corporate clients such as hotels and office buildings, is on his second Leica S (you remember he sold one print here on TOP). Since 2013, I've settled on APS-C, which, as John Krill said the other day, is "the 35mm of the digital age." (The camera I want most that might actually come to exist would be something like an A7II but with an APS-C sensor; that or an A6300 with IBIS.) My friend John Lehet, a master printer and landscape photographer, just invested in a Sony A7rII full-frame.
In other words, it's not a contest. Anyone who tries to turn it into one will be asked to go sit in the corner, where they will have useless old photo accessories lobbed at them and suffer forty lashes with a wet camera strap. And if you're not among the people who are interested in the topic, the weather will change tomorrow.
Sensor utopia
On another plane—rising above the clouds into the bright sunshine of thought-experiment—if you could have as many cameras as you want but all with the same kind of sensor, what would that be?
My ideal (I suppose; I haven't actually given it very much thought) would be...let's say a 20x20mm square sensor, about 9 MP, B&W only, with the tonal properties of the great classic Kodak B&W films shot with a yellow filter and developed in D-76. In other words, about the opposite of what's most popular now...on about five different levels.
That's pretty far out. If a camera with such a sensor were made, I'd buy three of them and that would be 1% of total annual sales. In all regions. :-) And I have to consider that even if anyone were making such a camera sensor, which they are not, they'd still get it all wrong and my verdict would be nope, nice try. So there is no chance, also on about five different levels, that such a preposterous/stupid thing would ever come about.
But then, that's what thought experiments are for.
What say ye? Just curious.
Mike
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tex andrews: "For me it's the current 645 'crop' Sony sensor in my Pentax 645Z. Why? Well, I have seen with my own eyes how this camera and my A7R handle certain very demanding (very! Confirmed a week or so ago by the tech rep from Moab paper—demanding to papers as well, it turns out...) tonality situations, namely a blend of harsh contrast with extremely subtle tonal gradations in very dark values, which can only be seen printed very large.
"The A7R is very good, the best I had seen until I got the 645Z. But the Z is that much better. And it's a real, obvious difference that most could see, maybe only after I pointed it out, but most could still see it plainly. Unlike certain lenses where there is maybe more faith, witchcraft, alchemy, or whatever to see their special qualities, and most could still not see them even when directed.
"If my main subject matter/content was totally different? The Z might not be the thing....
"I think what is very cool about our current gear situation in 2016, as digital has now matured pretty well for almost everyone, is that you can actually shop all this around in such an interesting way: strobe options, lens options, haptics options, sensor options, etc. It's a great time to be purchasing camera equipment.
"Using it properly to demonstrate a competent, unique vision that rises above the mass of image making going on today...well, that's quite another story, if you care about it, that is."
Dave: "To be honest, I don't really care much what sensor is in the camera. They're all capable now, and probably better than my photo skill level. Once the images are in Lightroom, I just don't think the output is so much different from one to the other that it would change whatever it is i'm trying to share or do."
Neal Elward: "I did an experiment last year: no buying of photo gear. I started and ended the year with a small but well-rounded Micro 4/3 kit and a Ricoh GR. I have no regrets. Now that my gear-buying embargo is over, I went a little crazy but settled back down where I started. The only noteworthy addition is an A7II and two primes. For 90% of my photos, the Micro 4/3 kit is sufficient or better.
"The problem I have is the remaining percentage of photos are some of my favorites. I considered some of the fancier glass, such as that 42.5mm ƒ/1.2, but I couldn't get past the pricing.
"I see a lot of interesting comments about equivalence and stops of difference between formats; my only comment there is that the D-o-F difference (but not necessarily background blur) between Micro 4/3 and 35mm is greater than two stops. For me, that's a great thing.
"Objectively, my Micro 4/3 kit is beyond perfect for me. Subjectively, you can pry my A7II and 55mm ƒ/1.8 out of my cold, dead hands."
Michael Perini: "I don't find owning a bunch of different cameras with the same sized sensor nearly as interesting as owning a bunch of cameras with different sized sensors. It's been (generally) stipulated that any modern sensor from 1" on up is capable of quite fine results. The different systems generally provide different advantages and different levels of 'completeness' as well—but an extensive system or specialty lenses will only be important to some folks, some of the time. We've never had such a wide range of good options. For me, the biggest advantages come from sensor size variation."
Mike replies: I guess I do shoot two formats, strictly speaking. One is Fuji APS-C; the other is the 1/3.0-inch (4.89 x 3.67mm) backside-illuminated 8-MP sensor in my iPhone 6+.
psu: "IMHO fixating on the sensor hardware puts the priorities in the wrong place. More important is the software around the sensor...at the firmware level in the camera (which is probably multiple pieces of software, really) and more importantly at the level of good software support for the output format in the downstream workflow. One of the main reasons the iPhone has been eating the lunch of larger sensor compact cameras is the software and workflow support. So, my favorite sensor is one that has a nice camera wrapped around it and good Lightroom support."