In the only science fiction I ever wrote, years ago, one of the tropes that I fantasized I invented was something almost exactly like the new Amazon Echo. I called it the "conbox." And here it is already. I guess one of the (many) reasons I'm not a science fiction writer is that the reach of my imagination extends a much shorter distance into the future than I think it does.
Would you ever buy something like the Echo? I'm tempted to set one on my desk just to try it out.
Bookending this occurrence—the other side of the same coin, the other end of the same stick—a little story. I went to the garden center yesterday needing to buy a flower vase. A flower vase is a decorative ceramic or glass container meant to hold cut flowers. It will become clear in a moment why I felt I needed to define that.
I asked the clerk where the vases were.
"Vases?" she repeated, with a blank look. Mind you, we're in store the size of a supermarket just stuffed with flowers and plants of every description. "You mean like, for flowers?"
All right then, a flower vase.
"I'm not sure I'm really picturing that," she said, growing faintly alarmed.
That's when I defined "flower vase" for her, like I just did for you in the third paragraph above.
Does this ever happen to you? I can't say it happens to me often, but intermittently and occasionally it does, often enough that I notice it. I go somewhere looking for something that I think is completely obvious and no one knows what the hell I'm talking about. I mean, I used to work at a garden center, and we had an entire "Pottery Department" that was lousy with hundreds upon hundreds of flower vases. And isn't "vase" among the 3,500 words that constitute native fluency in English? I would have guessed it was.
She and I set off on what I call a "BLB safari," BLB for "blind leading blind," which is whenever you go off trailing behind a store employee who is ostensibly showing you where something is even though he or she has no clue. Retail clerks are evidently required to bluff to the furthest extent possible in preference to admitting any sort of ignorance, like George Costanza showing Susan's parents, the Rosses, his house in the Hamptons. (I supposed that's another dated old-guy reference, hmm?)
She finally decided that some of the products on sale were being displayed in these mysterious things of which I spoke called "vases," and she removed a handful of planty stalks from one such decrepit container to see if it had a price on it. It did.
"But it's all dirty," she observed. "It will have to be cleaned."
For my part, I had no idea where to go to buy a vase. (See there? I just admitted ignorance, and it didn't hurt.) So, back at the checkout counter, I asked the now-congregated clerks if any of them knew. (They had rallied round their compatriot to help her solve the impenetrable riddle with which I had taxed her.) One older woman said "GoodWill?" GoodWill is a secondhand store run as a charity. I must have looked askance at that—it is not a place where I shop, generally—because she added, "seriously, GoodWill has all sorts of things like that."
I whipped out the iPhone and asked Siri, and sure enough, GoodWill was open.
So, off to GoodWill.
Mirabile dictu, GoodWill did indeed have flower vases—lots of them. The prices amounted to pocket change. I chose three, and headed to the checkout.
(I'm getting to the point. Hang in there.)
Waiting for checkout, it occurred to me that GoodWill, since it had all sorts of old stuff, might have some stereo equipment. I like stereo equipment almost as much as I like camera equipment, and I'd heard urban legends about people finding treasures like pristine Thorens TD-124's missing only their bases, also for the equivalent of pocket change, at secondhand stores. So I asked the clerk. Do you guys have any hi-fi equipment?
"The term is Wi-Fi," he said, slowly and clearly, as if he were talking to an ancient toddler.
So there you go. The future is here, and we're in it, and it's great. Check out the conbox and see what you think.
Mike
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Wes: "When Amazon announced the Echo a number of months ago they made it available to Prime members for $99 so I bought one. And it slowly grew on me until I found myself relying on it multiple times a day. I can enter the room and receive useful information simply by asking: 'What's the weather today?' 'What's on my calendar tomorrow?' 'How do you spell...?' It can also play music from Amazon Prime, Pandora, TuneIN Radio etc. The speakers for playback aren't great but it works well for certain listening scenarios. Now, there's no need to turn on my computer or tablet, no need to activate Siri on the iPhone to do these things. Amazon continues to add functionality as well. I really, really like the Echo."
Robert Hudyma: "For me, the Amazon Echo is a troubling piece of technology. It hears every word that is spoken in the room and digitizes them and dutifully sends your words to an Amazon cloud server for voice recognition and semantic understanding. I for one do not want every spoken word that is uttered in my home sent off to an Amazon server for analytic processing. Furthermore, as a Canadian, any traffic that crosses into the USA is available to the NSA for analysis. There will be no Amazon Echo in my home."
Wes replies to Robert (partial comment): "The Echo does not record every spoken word. It only records what you say after waking the device with the wake word. And it only records for a few seconds after that. If you don't speak after waking the Echo, it will stop listening after a few seconds. And you can easily turn off the microphones with a push of a button. In addition, if you so desire, you can go to Amazon.com and delete the recordings you've made. [...] Disclaimer: I am not an Amazon employee; I'm just a fan of technology and of this little device."
Aubrey Silvertooth: "I feel your pain. Daily. I am a Social Studies teacher in a public high school near Houston. I have students who do not know how to read an analog clock. Many of them cannot read or write in cursive. When I mention anything about film cameras or analog photography in class, they sit mystified as if watching aliens from another planet land on Mother Earth. And these are the children in the advanced academic program. I am beginning to get nervous about the future. Very, very nervous."
BillH: "I'm still chuckling over this story. Thanks for noting the irony of your experience and describing it so clearly to us. Most of my interests are old-guy hobbies: sports cars, 'Hi-Fi,' classical music and photographing wildflowers and wildlife."
EZ: "We have been using the Echo in my house for a couple of months now. It's a great device. It's plugged in and serves as a bluetooth speaker, radio streamer, and several other day-to-day activities (weather, time, sports, etc). One thing I have not yet played with is their implementation of ITTT ('if this, than that') which opens up an entire suite of functionality...."
Dennis: "For your sequel, you can write about how the company behind the cloud service that makes the gadget work became the evil empire after inferring all kinds of useful/valuable/embarrassing information from what people say/ask it. It can be an adventure/thriller where your protagonist has to 'destroy the cloud' or a courtroom drama where our hopes rest in one attorney, fighting the evil empire's well-funded law firm, in the mother of all privacy suits."
Ken Tanaka: "The Clapper seems to have come a long, long way."
Ruby: "Will it make you feel even older if I tell you that you are the first person besides my dad I've heard use mirabile dictu in conversation?
"I'm actually only a few years younger than you are myself, but I first encountered this sensation of obsolescence at a GoodWill that had LPs hanging from the ceiling when my son, then five, said, 'Look at those giant CDs!'"
Ed Grossman: "Sorry, but this isn't for me. In the room where I'm typing this, the following are all competing to tell me the weather:
- Computer
- Smartphone
- Tablet
- Television
- Radio
- Newspaper
- Window
- Arthritis in my shoulder
I don't need another device informing me that it's about to rain. The novelty of talking to this to get a response isn't worth $180 to me. Several of the gizmos above already respond to my voice. Others only require a push of a button, click of an icon, or a change in the direction of my gaze.
"Yes, I know the Echo does other things. I already own devices that do those things. In my opinion, replicating existing function with a different interface isn't innovation. It's packaging. Let me know when Amazon builds something that can control the weather. There's a genuine innovation I can make use of!"
So, if I got it right, the Echo is a gimmick stuffed with technology that enables you to listen to music.. in mono.
As the song goes, "the future's so bright I gotta wear shades."
I feel old.
Posted by: Manuel | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 09:10 AM
Were you wishing for an Ortofon, or a Grado cartridge?
Posted by: Joe M Sankey | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 09:15 AM
Funny about the vases (note: I mentally pronounced it 'vozzes'). Just yesterday, my fiancé recounted on Facebook the difficulty she had with a woman at a florist's shop. Kati told the woman that whatever they proposed couldn't include roses. It was as if she had asked for the impossible. "Why?" she was asked. "Well, for starters, I'm allergic. Seriously, sinuses shut down, face streaming with tears allergic". "So I'll put down 'no flowers' then".
I'd give the Goodwill person slack however. I do think hifi is essentially an archaic term, and you would have been better served asking for stereo equipment. I'd guess the hifi term peaked in the 60s.
Patrick
Posted by: Patrick Perez | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 09:17 AM
Which also raises the question what does the "fi" in Wi-Fi mean?
Posted by: KeithB | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 09:48 AM
Now that I've finished banging my head against my desk I can calm down and tell a story in a similar vein.
A long time ago, on a cross-US road trip, I pulled into the parking lot of a large grocery store in Akron, Ohio. I needed cash, some supplies, and a post office.
The two of the four walls inside the store were lined with various kiosks (shoe repair, flower shop, etc.) including a post office. I was hoping to find an ATM (for the cash) but I didn't see one right away. So I asked an un-busy cashier if there were any ATMs nearby. She shrugged and mumbled something to the effect that she didn't know of any. As I turned away I saw that one of the kiosks -- RIGHT BEHIND HER -- was a mini-branch of a bank, with three ATMs sitting right there blinking at us.
OK, cash in hand I went over to the post office. I asked for a stamp to send a postcard to Canada. The clerk gave me a stamp for sending a postcard within the US. I repeated that I was sending it to Canada, and surely such a stamp costs more than a domestic one. He looked at me as if I were asking to send a postcard to Mars. Flustered, he started flipping through a book of rates and was never able to determine the postage for a postcard to Canada. So I bought two domestic stamps, assuming that the to-Canada price wouldn't be more than double the domestic rate.
I have not been back to Akron Ohio. It's unfortunate that these two dolts are my only representation of people of that city.
Posted by: Ed Hawco | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 10:01 AM
You got me all curious and interested with this post, Mike.
And when I got to the point of ""The term is Wi-Fi,"", you had me all cracked laughing.
The world is changing isn't it?
Thanks for the finest sense of humour in this little world.
Posted by: Cateto Catetez | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 10:13 AM
Reminds me of when I asked for a shoehorn in the shoe section of a department store and had to explain what it was and how it was used. P.S. The clerk was younger than me.
Posted by: PhotoDes | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 10:19 AM
"...The future is here..."
Agreed.
"...and we're in it..."
Agreed.
"...and it's great."
With that I disagree. More appropriate would have been:
"Just like the past, some of it is great and some of it sucks."
Neither mere "pastness" nor "futureness" confers greatness. Discernment is needed to reach conclusions regardless of position on a timeline.
:-)
Posted by: Sal Santamaura | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 10:22 AM
In the spirt of science fiction writing I also find it very interesting how much we can compare things to the book "1984", the only difference being that instead of the Government forcing surveillance on us, we are instead using our own money to buy the listening devices to put in our homes and paying monthly for the connection to allow any one with a bit of nous or a court order to use it. I bet that was not imagined 50 or 60 years ago.
I walked into Hyundai a few years ago to look at one of there new cars but couldn't remember the name of the model, I asked the sales lady if there new sedan was in yet, "Sedan? oh you mean Van", no your new sedan thats been in all the commercials? "no I don't think I know of a new model called sedan"
Posted by: Richard | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 10:48 AM
Hope you managed to get listening to the wireless in there too :)
Posted by: Rory | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 11:09 AM
From one ancient toddler to another, thanks for a new, useful and an all too descriptive phrase.
Posted by: Michael Kohnhorst | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 11:40 AM
MJ,
Funny blog entry. Got me laughing this morning.
I am a little older than you and have found out just how old by trying to communicate, as you have shown, with folks in their teens and twenties (maybe thirties).
Kind of like asking for a vaaaz instead of a flower vase. When I was living in NY it seemed to be the former pronunciation. Here on the west coast its a vase and vaaaz does not exist. Goes to show how time and space changes culture.
Posted by: Joe | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 11:43 AM
Perhaps you said, "vahz"?
Posted by: Michael Matthews | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 11:49 AM
You are not alone. About a year ago my girlfriend (let's call her "T", following the etiquette of your blog :) ) and I were on a small road trip.
I stopped for gas and she declared that she wanted a cup of iced tea. Across the street was a fast food joint, to remain unidentified.
Normally, we don't eat fast food. We consider ourselves foodies, and besides, we all know the nutritional pitfalls of the stuff. But this particular chain was known for having good iced tea.
She heads over while I fill up. I finish and drive over to save her crossing the multi lane road a second time. The story she recounted had me dumbstruck for most of the rest of the ride.
After ordering her tea from a teenager, she asked them for a packet of sugar. Now, I must give another qualification here, we don't use the bleached variety, normally. As a matter of fact we use very little sugar at all. But when we do, we buy raw sugar. You know, like those little brown packs that Starbuck's has.
But, I digress. On with the story. The cashier hands her a little blue packet. And the following conversation transpires:
T "Um, no thank you. I asked for sugar."
Cashier "That is Sugar"
T "No. (reading the package) it says 'Equal'"
Cashier "Right, sugar."
T Blank stare.
Cashier Rummages around under counter. Hands over pink package "Ah, here you go"
T Sigh "That's called Sweet-n-Low"
Cashier, Visibly perturbed. "You asked for sugar, I offered you two kinds"
T "Neither were sugar. Those are artificial sweeteners"
Cashier "Okay, well this one says 'Made from Sugar' on the package" Hands her a yellow package
At this point other cashiers had rallied behind him trying to convince T that he had fulfilled her request. T is about to throw the tea at him. He takes note of her ninja like stance, and goes to find his manager.
Manager (barely older than the cashier) "My employee says you wanted sugar. He says he offered you three choices"
T "none of them were sugar"
Manager "Splenda" (the yellow packet) "...is made from sugar. Here's a pack..." Notices her ninja stance as well
T "Don't you have any of those little white packs? You know, the ones that say SUGAR on them?"
Manager "Oh, that's what you want" Rummaging around, finding one. "Sorry, our customers don't ask for this. So we really don't have any"
Seriously? Okay, maybe they don't carry much of it. But why didn't these young people know the difference? Has Madison Avenue brain washed this generation so thoroughly?
About you not writing Sci Fi because you can't see far enough into the future. Well, one of the recognized geniuses of the last century, Roddenberry, saw many of his ideas come to life before he died. And many more are becoming reality as I type:
Communicator- ubiquitous, small long range device. Do I have to name it
Bio Bed- about 20 years ago a bed that reads vital signs was developed
Ship bound Phaser (laser canon)- Boeing now has these attached to 747's and another company has a tank mounted version
Stun setting on hand held phaser- A you tuber has developed a potent laser pistol. And we've had stun guns for some time
The Tri-Corder (a small handheld multi functional scientific device) - There are many versions of these today. Many of them are based on smart phones. There are some specialty devices as well.
The medical tri-corder (like above, but used for field diagnosis) - There has recently been a crowdfunding campaign for a real one that connects to a smart phone via Bluetooth.
Transporter- Quantum physists have been working on this. And have succeeded in "Transporting" a single atom.
Warp Drive- Nasa scientists are deep in the theoretical planning phase of it's design.
I could go on. But the bottom line is this: I love your writing and would buy a Sci Fi novel penned by you! As I'm sure many others would (And make you rich beyond the dreams of avarice- in this context, that is a Sci Fi reference, by the way)
Posted by: Paul Emberger | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 11:59 AM
Great post. Thanks for the laugh.
Posted by: david stock | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 12:04 PM
You were smart to buy three vases. Whenever you find something you want or need, always buy several. No can repair anything anymore, no one can find anything. Bring them home, don't tell anyone, lock the doors.
Posted by: Robert Roaldi | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 12:08 PM
Vase? How about breakfast cereal? I was shopping at a Super in my new neighborhood and couldn't find Cheerios, so I asked a clerk. Breakfast cereal or breakfast food, didn't work so I finally said: "You know, Cheerios, Rice Chex, Raisin Bran. That got me pointed in the right direction. BTW the clerk thought I wanted Jimmy Dean frozen Sausage/Egg Croissants when I said breakfast food!
Condesending children are hilarious! I once had a kid tell me that before photoshop there was no way to correct color in analog photography 8-D Mike how many articles have you written about analog color printing?
Amazon doesn't mention that Echo has a direct line to the NSA. No-one seems to care about privacy anymore. We use G-Mail knowing that Google reads everything. Your receipts from iMusic and PayPal helps them sell info. Many people overshare on social media. The list goes on. I will not be buying an Echo.
BTW2 my spelling checker wanted to change Bo Jackson to Book Jackson the other day 8-D Yeah gotta luv technology!
Posted by: c.d.embrey | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 12:45 PM
While scanning the Amazon listing, I immediately thought of "Star Trek". "Computer- what weapons exist on the planet we are orbiting?" Then I observed it wasn't an original thought.
As to the getting old part (I'm your age)- I recently had a conversation with an office worker about dated phrases. I used the old line "time to get back to the salt mine" to end the conversation. Hearing this, another (young) worker looked at me and asked "do you really work in a salt mine?" "No", I replied, and tried to explain the irony of how that was just another example of a dated expression. I failed to gain her understanding.
Posted by: Kurt Kramer | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 12:47 PM
If it's any comfort, I had no idea what an Echo is or does until I got to the featured comments.
[Well, you could have clicked the link.... --Mike]
Posted by: Gato | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 01:06 PM
Being generally frugal so I can splurge too often on things like, oh, say cameras, I often enjoyed rummaging around the local Goodwill store looking for treasures and bargains. Until one day when a friend pointed out that unlike many people who shop there, I don't need to be quite so frugal to survive and perhaps I should consider leaving the bargains for those who have no choice but to shop there. Something to ponder, anyway...
Posted by: JG | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 01:13 PM
A few years ago I visited my local Radio Shack store to buy a roll of solder. As soon as I walked in the door, a young clerk asked me, "Can I help you, sir?" I said, "Yes, please, I need some solder." And the clerk replied, "What is solder?" That's when I knew Radio Shack was doomed.
Posted by: Tom R. Halfhill | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 01:22 PM
"I went to the garden center yesterday needing to buy a flower vase"
I don't know if that's the first place I'd go to look for one, kind of like going to the Agway (or maybe not, pure ag supply stores seem to have become as rare as pure camera stores) to buy a frying pan I'd think. A home furnishing store like Crate & Barrel
http://www.crateandbarrel.com/decorating-and-accessories/vases/1 would be more productive.
Speaking of C&B , who buys this?
http://www.crateandbarrel.com/set-of-3-birch-logs/s236068
I think most people don't know what a vase is because it's "that thing that cut flowers come in that you send to the good will because it seems to nice to throw away"
Speaking of the Goodwill, notice how they call 8mm film cameras video cameras?
Good thing you didn't ask for the frog to go with the vase.
Posted by: hugh crawford | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 01:23 PM
I get blank looks when I ask for 'Paper Hankies'
'Oh, you mean tissues ?'
Whatever
Posted by: Thomas Paul Mc Cann | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 01:27 PM
I've gotten one of the Echo devices. I suppose they are generally available now, rather than by "invitation", which I never understood. I suppose requiring a request for an invite to buy one limited how many people would bother to go through the ordering process, and head off any supply shortfalls/backorder issues.
But anyway. Significant privacy implications aside, it's an interesting product. Amusing, mostly, in what it gets right and what it gets wrong. My young son likes to have it tell him corny jokes, but is disappointed he can't reciprocate.
For me, it's fun to mess with but doesn't have any real "can't live without" functionality at this point. Amazon is adding more to it all the time (such as integration with WeMo and Hue devices), and the potential is impressive.
Posted by: Chris Hunt | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 02:23 PM
I'll lay odds "HAL" came up in the naming discussions on the Echo.
Posted by: TBannor | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 02:25 PM
Mike,
I am not so much confronted by ignorance of common things, but confronted by words that are so incredibly specfic, yet treated as commonplace, that I feel sure I have slid sideways into a paralell universe.
For example, on this very blog, I read someone using the word "tannoy" to generically refer to speakers. Some internet digging later, I come to find out that they were a ubiquitous UK public address speaker manufacturer. Really?!? Are you sure? That has to be a put on, who would call their PA equipment company something that sounds like a contraction of "to annoy"?
Likewise, I've fallen into a cultural rabbit hole a time or two - sometimes voluntarily (didn't watch the news from May of 1990-Sept 1995, so Gulf War I was a surprise) . Sometimes involuntarily - the birth of a child will do that. (E.g. there's this high end clothing shop with a preposterous name, called "white house black market" that suddenly exists! Why?)
A few other things seem to reappear in technology enough times that I don't understand why people don't understand them. E.g. Internet chat: 1994 MUDs, usenet, listservs, 1996 ICQ AOL, MSN, IRC, 2002 ichat 2003 skype 2004 Facebook, 2006 Twitter, 2010 instagram, 2011 imessage, LINE, 2013 Slack.
Every time you get trolls, sexting, impersonation, urban legends, and people dating. Every time people are surprised. (Fyi, iMessage is the best of the lot, followed by Slack, and Twitter...is like Game of Thrones, there's 140 characters and something terrible is always happening.)
Posted by: Trecento | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 02:48 PM
I thought I would provide additional information about the Echo for the paranoid types: the Echo does NOT record every spoken word. It only records what you say after waking the device with the wake word. And it only records for a few seconds after that. If you don't speak after waking the Echo, it will stop listening after a few seconds. And you can easily turn off the microphones with a push of a button. In addition, if you so desire, you can go to Amazon.com and delete the recordings you've made. As for the NSA, it's already been shown they have no issue taking and analyzing data from citizens of other countries. If that's what your are trying to prevent, you are already too late. Disclaimer: I am not an Amazon employee; I'm just a fan of technology and of this little device.
Posted by: Wes | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 03:11 PM
This would appear to be a natural progression of the trend toward deskilling coupled with "me" generation narcissism. Does anyone even learn to drive a stick shift car anymore? That's aside from the obvious privacy and security issues.
Posted by: Joseph Kashi | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 04:15 PM
My recent story is dissimilar, but gave me the same spooky feeling.
The police came around and looked for one of my neighbors. No clue why, don't care, nice guy.
So in the evening I thought he might like to know, so I went and told him they'd been around.
Now, I've lived here for 12 years, and he has always seemed a very normal, sane, pleasant guy.
... So the next day he knocked on my door and said: "Do you know about the police maybe having been around, looking for me? One of the neighbors told me about it..."
I'm 6.4 and rather distinctive. He'd forgotten my face and identity in half a day. Ooooh.
Posted by: Eolake | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 04:16 PM
Don't know how it is in the US, but here in UK and most of Europe, if you want orange juice, you can't say "orange juice", you will get orange-colored soda. You have to say "Fresh orange juice" or such. Many of the young servers simply can't comprehend the difference. If it's orange and taste faintly of orange, it's orange juice, end of discussion. For me, if it has no, erm, orange juice in it, it's not orange juice.
Only thing worse is the disappearance of the word "literally". It's an important word, dammit. It does not mean "practically" or "virtually".
Posted by: Eolake | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 04:27 PM
How have we gotten this far down the page without the Beloit College Mindset List coming up?
I'm surprised the weird things coming up here, though; I bought breakfast cereal in a supermarket yesterday, and there were a LOT of varieties. What actually startles me is how few kinds of jams and jellies are stocked these days.
Posted by: David Dyer-Bennet | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 04:45 PM
Re: Flower vases....
More than you ever wanted to know about flower vases... plus an obligatory link to buy one at Amazon...
http://thesweethome.com/reviews/right-vase-for-flowers/
I think when we have vase buying guides, we have officially hit "peak internet".
Happy flower arranging... Will this lead to a cliche photo of flowers in a vase?
Rick
Posted by: Rick Reed | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 05:01 PM
The flower receptacle thingey - I've heard it rhyme (here in England) with bars or cars (but omitting the soft 'r' sound), with gauze (much less often), and with haze (rather rarely). So another source of confusion over floral display devices.
What made me feel old though, was realising that a whole generation and a half after mine never spoke of a railway station, but a train station. More logical, I suppose, since it's the train that stops, not the rail, but unsettling.
Posted by: John Ironside | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 05:13 PM
Of course to the Brit of a Certain age this reminds me of the Not the Nine O'Clock News sketch about the HiFi shop about the man who wants to buy a "gramophone". And look at that it's on t'internet too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoPXQ9fotZM
There is nothing new under the sun. This is a generational issue and we are now the old guys asking for "a gramophone".
@Patrick Perez: Did we reach peak hifi in the 1960s?
According to Google NGrams HiFi (case insensitive) peaked in the 1820s (I kid you not!). Clearly another meaning from scanned books but aside from a bump in the 1980s HiFi is a term whose usage is still on the rise (in books as of 2008).
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=hifi&case_insensitive=on&year_start=1800&year_end=2008&corpus=0&smoothing=3
@KeithB: What does the Fi in WiFi stand for. Nothing much. It's just a trademark that sort sounds like HiFi.
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wi-Fi#The_Name_.27Wi-Fi.27
@Robert Hudyma: I'm pretty sure that not everything you say is sent over the wire to Amazon (they wouldn't want the server load) but only the phrase you say after the "wake word".
I dread to think that there is a home out there with a daughter called Alexa and a cat called Amazon as they are the only two wake words so far. Got to sell the brand, I suppose. I'm sure this will change.
The other security question to ask is can it be hacked to do that? I'm sure there are people out there already working on that question.
And this is just a disembodied device ... just think what will happen when we get synths like Anita in Humans about the house? It's getting closer every day. Humans starts on AMC in the US on June 28. It's already on in the UK.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4122068/
http://www.amc.com/shows/humans
Posted by: Kevin Purcell | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 05:14 PM
It increasingly seems that "backward compatibility" is not a part of our cultural system.
Posted by: Alex | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 05:34 PM
A quick online check (www.lextutor.ca) shows 'vase' to be in the 5th 1000 frequency list, so not that common. I wouldn't expect an intermediate-level student of English to know it. As a student of linguistics, I'm curious to know where you got the figure of 3500 to define a 'native' speaker's vocabulary size.
Posted by: Mike | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 06:09 PM
I have a "Dang, I'm Old" story in reverse.
Around these parts Wegman's is the default supermarket. You have likely been in one, Mike, as they are default in where S lives, as well.
The cashiers (of which there are many - the checkout lines are generally short and fast,) are usually fairly bright and friendly, and mostly teenagers. None of them, of course can make change without looking at their terminal display.
Except one. Several years a young lady, who I am reasonably sure was 17, actually counted back to make change without once looking at the screen. It's a good thing I was on my heart meds otherwise I think I would have collapsed of coronary failure.
And speaking of both Hi Fi and Goodwill ... I occasionally haunt the local Goodwill stores for LPs. Digging through the bins can be a chore, but some treasures can be found for pennies. The one nearest my workplace has a trove of jazz and an interesting selection of classical, including ballet music. There are other genres, of course, but those two dominate.
One day I decided to expand my search and go to other Goodwill locations. At one I found almost exclusively Broadway musicals and '50s crooners and pre-rock pop. At another the selection was entirely different, this time dominated by rock.
Did they do this on purpose? Even if not, it certainly is convenient for vinyl bin-diving. "Hmmm, I'm in the mood for some Al Martino today..."
Posted by: Earl Dunbar | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 06:38 PM
Come on...you know where to buy flower vases...
...on Amazon using the T.O.P. affiliate link!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/s/ref=is_s?k=flower+vase
Posted by: adamct | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 09:14 PM
Thanks for the laughs Mike. Well done.
(further to John Ironside's comment - in Australia there is no consensus on how to pronounce the word either - so much so that my school teacher mother always jokingly used the word with the three versions of pronunciation - "Can you get me out a vorsz, varse, vayhse for these flowers please?")
Posted by: Peter Barnes | Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 10:14 PM
Mike, I think its not that you are short sighted, but its the exponential progress of innovation.
One of my fav show was Star Trek, touchscreen, mobile gadget and voice command are already here. I guess we'll just have to wait for the spaceship and holodeck, and we'll be good to go :) (oh and the transporter)
Posted by: Chan | Friday, 26 June 2015 at 01:31 AM
A 'flower' vase? Are there any other types of vases?
p.s. I'm English so you have to read that 'a' in vase as 'ah' not 'ae'!
Posted by: Steve Smith | Friday, 26 June 2015 at 01:32 AM
For example, on this very blog, I read someone using the word "tannoy" to generically refer to speakers. Some internet digging later, I come to find out that they were a ubiquitous UK public address speaker manufacturer. Really?!? Are you sure?
Yes. Tannoy make great speakers. In the UK the term 'to tannoy someone' meaning paging them on a PA system is almost as common as referring to vacuuming as Hoovering.
Posted by: Steve Smith | Friday, 26 June 2015 at 01:35 AM
This entire discussion seems to require that we coin the phrase "chuckling with despair." As a college employee, I now feel obligated to quiz random students on their familiarity with vases, hi-fi, and sugar packets.
Posted by: Ben Wilkes | Friday, 26 June 2015 at 01:41 AM
@Aubrey Silvertooth, your comment made me think of lamentations people in the previous century would have made over the youth of the day losing all recollection of saddlery, smithing and horse-craft. Why would you worry that students in the advanced programme lack familiarity with dying technologies?
(I can empathise with grieving for the loss of beautiful practices and mediums through obsolescence though.)
Posted by: Steve Caddy | Friday, 26 June 2015 at 03:36 AM
In reply to Wes above: how can the device, pray tell, be woken by the wake word if it is not already listening?
Posted by: Roberto Alonso | Friday, 26 June 2015 at 04:04 AM
No, Mike. It's not you. The world is going to heck in a hand-basket.
Posted by: Mani Sitaraman | Friday, 26 June 2015 at 05:08 AM
Another bombout. I tried to buy it and found Amazon won't ship to Australia. This is a very regular, boring occurrence, I'm finding.
It's clear they don't want my business. I tried to buy an SD card and a 62mm UV filter last week. Total price US104. Total weight, what, 100gm? Shipping cost? US$110 ! I've given up even trying to buy from Amazon. Books, DVDs, it doesn't matter, they either won't sell to Australia or the freight is out of the question. Bye.
Posted by: Peter Croft | Friday, 26 June 2015 at 05:52 AM
Meh. I can't be impressed with an item that has speakers that a cheap car stereo would put to shame and that isn't streaming Sirius XM "Metropolitan Opera" station. I might change my mind if I were in a full body cast.
Posted by: NancyP | Friday, 26 June 2015 at 11:13 AM
Without a doubt the best post in a L O N G time. I found myself wondering why not Goodwill before you mentioned it. And re the stereo equipment thing, I have yet to encounter anything remotely interesting in a Goodwill. It's a low probability event.
Posted by: Dennis | Friday, 26 June 2015 at 11:40 AM
@Aubrey Silvertooth: When I was young, everyone was taught cursive writing; but not all were taught to type. One of those I no longer use. More to the point: Are they learning their history? History of people? Do they care about it? Can they reason about it and about their social institutions? Can they make a coherent argument? Again, do they care? If so, you are succeeding. If they don't know how a rotary phone works, or even that there was this thing called "film", it certainly doesn't matter enough to worry.
Posted by: Carson Harding | Friday, 26 June 2015 at 11:40 AM
As my wife says often, "We are hurtling towards Idiocracy." She can't watch that movie because she finds it painful rather than funny. The satire is just too realistic as Mike Judge's satire always is. Smart people really are waiting too long to have kids and dumb people are having way too many. I have a feeling that in 100 years our descendants will be staring at the rising ocean levels slowly drowning them like turkeys drowning in the rain; unable to comprehend what is happening while the water level is rising above their necks. Yes, I'm cynical and feel old at 38. I know I'm old because I put 2 spaces after every sentence and that method of typing is already passe since it most likely developed from typesetting and typewriters. Kids have no time to double space when texting.
Posted by: Jon | Friday, 26 June 2015 at 01:23 PM
"Wi-Fi" brought a smile to my face. Perhaps you're fortunate not to have asked for an enlarger in the photo department; they may have directed you to the pharmacy.
Posted by: Tom | Friday, 26 June 2015 at 08:54 PM
Wi-Fi you say? You'll need a wireless router: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00005QEVT?vs=1
Posted by: Nick | Friday, 26 June 2015 at 09:49 PM
Yes, but can the Echo understand:
"Help! I've fallen and I can't get up!"
(Or does that date me)
Posted by: Scott Campbell | Friday, 26 June 2015 at 11:01 PM
Wi-Fi? That's so old -- I was using 4G all last week, that's good new tech.
Posted by: Oskar Ojala | Saturday, 27 June 2015 at 03:53 AM
In reply to:
"This would appear to be a natural progression of the trend toward deskilling coupled with "me" generation narcissism. Does anyone even learn to drive a stick shift car anymore? "
.... the majority of people in Europe, where automatic gears are still mainly the province of high end luxury cars or a niche part of most smaller ranges. We call the stick thing "the gear lever" and shifting "changing gear".
My car (a Golf) has a choice of 6 forward gears plus neutral and reverse.
Posted by: Dave Millier | Saturday, 27 June 2015 at 05:00 AM
Twitter, texting, and Fb
It is saddening, it's like a big portion of the world has descended into the equivalent of a big party, it's so busy and noisy that you can't hear anything significant, and people communicate mostly by hitting each other over the head with bottles.
Posted by: Eolake | Saturday, 27 June 2015 at 06:27 AM
Guys/Gals listen up this concerns all of us.
1] There has never been a generation who did not believe that the generations that came after them were stupid,incompetent,incapable of doing things as they had always been done etc. etc.
2]Were not convinced that the succeeding generation would make a complete hash of things and were sure to bring an end to the world and everything in it.
Well a brief look back at history should be enough to dispel one's fears as it's pretty obvious that nature has designed mankind to survive in all kinds of changing times and to deal with and overcome adversaries,so try not to get your knickers in a twist just because someone younger than you who has a different life experience uses different words and phrases and doesn't hold dear some of the things you do.
None of us are going to be here forever so it's not worth worrying about,have a good day.
Posted by: Michael Roche | Saturday, 27 June 2015 at 03:41 PM
I'm an Amazon Prime member and was offered one of these a few months back at discount before general release. i liked the idea and being a fairly early "adopter" of technology wanted to try it. My wife was not so sure we needed nor that she wanted something like that sitting in our kitchen or living room. In the end the cheesy video demonstrating the product really turned me off (when something like that irritates me I cannot help but have it influence me too), and then one last discussion with the wife reminded me of all the darn gadgets we have around the house (5 iphones, including "retired" ones now used as quasi-iPods since they no longer have SIM cards but still connect to HiFi, I mean WiFi...), 3 iPads (one for me, one for my son, and one my wife and 3-yr old daughter use) an iMac for my main workstation, and one MacBook Pro. Plus all the cooking gadgets on the counters like toaster, soy milk maker, yogurt maker, hot water boiler, blender, etc and it just seemed ridiculous to add an Echo too....
Posted by: Richard Sintchak | Monday, 29 June 2015 at 10:41 AM
Funny - the name "Wi-Fi" was originally conceived as a pun on "Hi-Fi."
Posted by: Bill Tyler | Monday, 29 June 2015 at 10:51 PM
The echo looks like a flower vase!
Posted by: David | Wednesday, 01 July 2015 at 07:34 AM
Dear Roberto,
The same way you can be sitting in a room reading TOP on your tablet* and ignoring the conversations around you, not registering nor remembering a word, until someone says, "Hey, Roberto," and then you're attentive.
pax / Ctein
*(no one reads books any more-- so last century)
Posted by: ctein | Wednesday, 01 July 2015 at 07:32 PM
@ Dennis. No reason for Mike to write the sequel; David Eggars has it covered....
The Circle is a 2013 novel by American author Dave Eggers.[2][3][4] It chronicles tech worker Mae Holland as she joins a powerful Internet company which starts out as an incredibly rewarding experience, but as she works there longer things start to fall apart. It is Dave Eggers’s tenth published work of fiction.
Posted by: Chad Wadsworth | Wednesday, 01 July 2015 at 09:22 PM