From Jim Simmons (see Jim's Featured Comment in the previous relevant post):
"Here's the update for you. The governor vetoed the bill [Arkansas Senate Bill 79] because it was overly broad, stating that it was the letters from photographers that caused him to understand the flaws in the bill. Common sense prevailed." [Emphasis ours. —Ed.]
Here's Governor Asa Hutchinson's veto letter.
A further comment from reader William Schneider:
"The battle against this misguided legislation, like others before it, will be waged by the legal representatives from organizations like the ASMP, NPPA, and others. They rely on member support to do this work, but it benefits everyone. With declining membership, some of these organizations are struggling to stay alive in the Internet age. It would be a good time to consider joining one of them even if you aren't a newspaper photographer or other photo professional. You'll still benefit from having someone go to bat for your rights as a photographer."
Mike
(Thanks to Jim and Bill)
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Featured Comments from:
Stephen Scharf: "Whew! Thank goodness for common sense prevailing. This was a similar situation to the one last fall requiring a permit to photograph in US National Parks. Common sense prevailed, there, too, thanks again to organizations like ASMP, NPPA, etc. William Schneider is absolutely correct that these group require our support."
Norm Snyder: "Thanks to any and all who communicated to the Arkansas Governor, thereby helping good sense prevail. My elected representatives here still managed, with endorsement by the executive branch, to embarrass themselves by allowing, in another bill, signed into law by the Governor, businesses in Arkansas to refuse services to persons of alternative sexual preferences. I guess every silver lining has a cloud.... At least I don't need to take down most of the work on my website."
John Krill: "What continent is the country of Arkansas on? I can't find it on any map. :-) "
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Posted by: Patrick Dodds | Tuesday, 31 March 2015 at 03:52 PM
Unfortunately, dimmer wits are prevailing on bigger legislation in Arkansas.
Posted by: Kenneth Tanaka | Tuesday, 31 March 2015 at 04:24 PM
Not just a question of common sense, but a massive win for freedom of expression.
Posted by: Manuel | Tuesday, 31 March 2015 at 05:05 PM
Hmm. Interesting discussion and it raises some quite interesting issues. As an English barrister and photographer I have always assumed that the common law (at least as comparable in the US and the UK (although I do not fully understand the subtle distinctions between Federal and State Law as regards common law)) was firmly on the basis that if you appear in public you run the risk of being photographed and thus cannot complain unless of course the use of that photograph is somehow defamatory or involves some other tort such as passing off. See the Philip lorca dicorcia case. So the Arkansas proposal seems hugely inappropriate and very worrying.
However I was reading a large book on Diane Arbus the other day - Revelations - in which it was stated that when John Szarkowski organised the seminal "New Documents" exhibition (Arbus, Winogrand and Freidlander) in 1967 he insisted that Arbus went off and got model release forms from everyone who appeared in her photographs. So she got on her bike and whizzed round Manhattan doing so. Fantastic image.
But what is the legal position over the famous photographs of the kid with the toy hand grenade (Arbus) or the couple with the chimpanzee (Winogrand)? Although both made in public spaces (and I remember the kid has been located and given interviews) were release forms necessary?
The Arkansas proposed legislation was clearly misconceived but in a highly litigious 21st Century is there a clear legal position?
Posted by: Philip Flower | Tuesday, 31 March 2015 at 05:39 PM
Common sense and cool heads prevailed. Too often these days folks react and fuel the fire rather than try to get it under control.
Posted by: Robert Schellhammer | Tuesday, 31 March 2015 at 08:21 PM
Thankfully someone listened with reason to reasonable people making a reasonable argument. This made me wonder if it was against the law to photograph anything in public from a public location in these United States. I was about to tell myself no when I remembered reading somewhere that it is against the law in New York City to photograph any bridge. An offshoot, I'm sure, of the panic after 9/11. Even around Washington DC I recall someone saying you couldn't film anything with a camera mounted on a tripod. To much like a gun taking aim, I guess. In the words of the that great? American, Rodney King, "Can't we all just get along?"
Posted by: Rick Wilcox | Wednesday, 01 April 2015 at 01:27 AM
I saw the headline and thought the Religious Freedom Restoration Act was vetoed. Well, one down, one to go.
Posted by: Peter | Wednesday, 01 April 2015 at 06:02 AM
It's still sad that it required an uproar to make the governor see what was wrong with the legislation. Aren't laws reviewed by legal staff before being passed?
Posted by: Robert Roaldi | Wednesday, 01 April 2015 at 06:53 AM
Common sense prevailed? No!
This wasn't rejected because it was a bad, unjust, or unworkable law, it was rejected because it attracted negative attention.
These cretins will try again.
Posted by: Ed | Wednesday, 01 April 2015 at 08:49 AM
Only for the moment. The Arkansas Governor is still debating if he'll sign the Pink Crow bill like Indiana's into law. SMH.
Posted by: Willam Lewis | Wednesday, 01 April 2015 at 10:26 AM
Just a note that today Arkansas governor Asa Hutchinson has asked the Arkansas state legislature to repeal the recently passed "religious freedom" bill due to the amount of flak that the state is receiving, very similar to the debacle that the Indiana religious freedom bill created when passed and signed by Indiana Gov. Mike Pence last week.
Posted by: Stephen Scharf | Wednesday, 01 April 2015 at 02:55 PM
That so-called law would not have held up in court to even the most superficial challenge, (state law cannot override federal law) so really, much ado about nothing.
Posted by: Ed | Wednesday, 01 April 2015 at 07:46 PM
Well, it's over, I hope. The privacy law, which would have potentially affected photographers everywhere, at least those whose work could be viewed in Arkansas, was vetoed, and an attempt to override the veto was unsuccessful. Thanks to all those who wrote and e-mailed, and thus limited my elected representatives' efforts to protect us all. I should note that this whole debacle originated because of a concern about the privacy of a single family, albeit one with considerable notoriety in the state.
The Governor also did the right thing with the bill which would have restored Jim Crow to Arkansas [check online for a Charles Mingus composition, "Fables of Faubus"], and vetoed it, as well. As it happens I was mistaken in that he had already decided to allow it to become law without his signature. With considerable political pressure, he encouraged the legislature to rethink this. I suspect it was a decision based on economics and in response to the events in Indiana.
Posted by: Norm Snyder | Wednesday, 01 April 2015 at 10:07 PM
"letters from photographers". Whoa! Photographers can write? That doesn't sound right.
Posted by: AHC McDonald (The Lazy Aussie) | Saturday, 04 April 2015 at 08:51 PM