Following up on all our bag discussions from last week, I was hyper-conscious of my old Billingham bag on my trip just past, and I have to say that it really doesn't measure up very well against the hypothetical ideal of a perfect bag. It's clunky, clumsy to get into and batten down again (the single central zipper, even after you unsnap and un-flap and delve down to its layer, does not afford ideal entry and egress), and it is, I have to say, ill-fitting for the equipment I want to carry. For instance, it has slit compartments on both sides that can be used for flat electronic devices (iPad and Kindle, in my case), but in both cases there's no padding between the device and the outside layer of canvas. These days a bag with a slot that's actually designed to carry and protect electronic devices would be better.
I hate to give up 25 years' worth of patina, but a new bag might really do a lot better for my travels. I don't think there's anywhere I can go locally to see Think Tank Photo bags, but I think I'm in the market. Especially if I get a laptop (a.k.a. lapdog).
Bear in mind that mine isn't the perfect Billingham for modern times; I think mine is a 225, although it doesn't say anywhere on it what it is. One of the Hadleys could well be much better configured for my current use.
Mike
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Stephen McCullough: "If we can convince people to stop innovating then our bags will last longer. Imagine if there were no Kindles or iPads? How cool would that be? But they do exist, and are essential to modern survival(!).
"I have a black Hadley Pro. It has a nice safe place for my iPad, and very easy, silent access. It melds to my body, which is one of the reasons I chose it over a Think Tank, which are also great bags. The Hadley carries all that I need: typically an X-Pro1, three or four lenses, and sometimes a second smaller body.
"Oh, and like all desirable gear it has made me a better photographer...."
Gordon Lewis: "This post confirms what I thought when I read your first Billingham bag post: 'If you hardly ever use it, then any bag is durable and any one is just as good as the next.' Unfortunately, it takes some trial and error to discover exactly what you want and need in a bag. For me it's small size, light weight, and ease of access. For someone else it might be the ability to drop the bag out of a two-story window without damaging the contents. The bag you might choose for a two week trip to France would be very different from one you'd use for a two-hour walk around town. That's why there are so many of the damned things."
Ben Rosengart: "It's your blog, Mike, but I gotta say I liked it a lot better when it wasn't all bags all the time."
Mike replies: It's just bags from here on out. What can I say? Bags are my passion, and I don't care about anything else but bags. Gotta follow your heart.
Mike:
I have searched (and bought) more bags than I care to think about regardless of my wife's reminders.
But my current two favorites are a Safrotto knock off of a Domke F2 and F8.
I am looking at a Kollertron BBK2 now but holding back...somewhat, until my wife OK's the purchase...about 49 bucks.
Posted by: Hugh Smith | Friday, 19 July 2013 at 03:04 PM
I see a Think Tank Retrospective 5 or 7 in your future (depending the size of your electronics). I know that it requires putting an external rain cover on it if it rains, but from their videos, this takes less than 30 seconds, and seriously, how often does one stand out in a rainstorm while shooting anyway (unless one's a PJ working in the field)? My guess is less than 5% of the time.
I would suggest reaching out directly to the Think Tank guys in Santa Rosa, CA and see if they would let you evaluate one for review. They're a great bunch of guys.
Posted by: Stephen Scharf | Friday, 19 July 2013 at 03:38 PM
Bags. Puh!
If you get a lapdog and like to carry it with your camera (D800?) have a look at the Tenba Messenger Bags: http://www.tenba.com/Categories/Messenger-Bags.aspx
Just found out the have three sizes now. I've got the 'Small Messenger bag' for lapdogs up to 15". Its one of the best 'four-lens-camera-bag' I came across in a very long time. The top zipper is very conveniend to reach into the bag in an instand without fumbleing with the front flap.
Cheers
Marc
Posted by: Marc | Friday, 19 July 2013 at 04:14 PM
I don't remember what equipment you're carrying, but I've been very pleased with an alternative to the Hadley Pro (which I had and sold): the Oskars One Day Bag Mark II by Black Label Bags (from Photo Village in NYC). It's trimmer and holds more, weighs less. Around the same price.
Posted by: Godfrey | Friday, 19 July 2013 at 04:24 PM
Mike, You nailed the problem. The zipper on those early Billingham bags made them a complete non-starter for me.
And the talk of the longevity made me wonder, my first Hadley had the foam fail after a while and is completely useless.
But I still bought three more, two Alices and one "press-top" still has the zipper but I never see it.
Posted by: Doug C | Friday, 19 July 2013 at 06:11 PM
Picked up a TTP City Walker 20 a few weeks ago, and it's pretty close to perfect. Carries a mirrorless kit with 2 cameras and 5 lenses, a full size tablet and my Macbook Air 11.6 inch, plus all the little stuff like a charger and extra batteries, etc. It has stretchy end pockets for my glasses and a water bottle, and best of all it's not too large.
Feature-wise it's great. Looks-wise, it's kind of like a minivan or a suburban rancher -- I'd prefer a sports car or a hip urban apartment. But none of the cool hipster canvas or leather courier bags will carry the same load, so I'll go with it for now. Happy to send you some photos of it loaded out....
Posted by: Ken Bennett | Friday, 19 July 2013 at 06:45 PM
PS to my previous comment: I own a lot of Think Tank bags and have never used the rain covers - I just leave them at home. They are plenty water resistant even in moderate rain, and I am carrying an umbrella.
Posted by: Ken Bennett | Friday, 19 July 2013 at 06:47 PM
I will gladly buy your Billingham if you deicide to replace it.
Posted by: Jim in Denver | Friday, 19 July 2013 at 06:56 PM
"It's just bags from here on out. What can I say? Bags are my passion, and I don't care about anything else but bags. Gotta follow your heart."
Funniest thing you've ever written!
Come for the photo chat, stay for Mike's stand-up!
Posted by: Jeffrey MacMIllan | Friday, 19 July 2013 at 07:07 PM
I've been through three unsatisfactory bags in the last couple of years, currently working out of one. Maybe I need to find a way to pull back and figure out what's actually needed, eh?
I think part of the problem is that I need more bags than I'm willing to contemplate (camera bags are expensive!). And that perhaps I need a high-end transport bag to resolve a bunch of the issues (and the ones I've looked at there are several hundred dollars and up). Ugh.
Posted by: David Dyer-Bennet | Friday, 19 July 2013 at 07:16 PM
Contrary to all you bagaholics I prefer to go with a semi-disposable and not- obviously-containing-lots-of-expensive-gear approach. Whenever I receive a large bubble wrap envelope (plastic coated ones are better than the paper ones) I keep it to use as wrap for a camera, which can then get thrown into any ordinary backpack or shopping bag. When I want a shoulder bag for a camera and/or spare lenses I use a soft cooler bag, the kind meant for your lunch or half a dozen cans.
Posted by: Nicolas | Friday, 19 July 2013 at 08:42 PM
Welcome back! As to bags, Calumet Photo has Think Tank bags, along with all the other brands discussed, including the Billinghams. Might be time to pay a visit to Chicago relatives.
I was just at the Oak Brook location last Sunday and perused them all at some length. Tenba also had an interesting bag, but in the end I went with the Lowepro Event 250. It fit my iPad, OMD, 12-35, 25, 45, and 45-200 lenses and Fuji X-E1 with 18-55 kit lens. Front pocket holds 2 circ polarizers, step up rings, SDHC card case and spare batteries, and a few more misc items. I also have the Event 150, which was just a little too tight for the OMD w/ lenses (sans Fuji) and iPad, but the extra height & width of the 250 solved my needs. Reasonable cost so even if I need to replace it sometime it's was less than many other bags. And it has a silent Velcro feature too!
Posted by: Mark Kinsman | Friday, 19 July 2013 at 09:43 PM
My problem is that, rather than finding a good camera bag that holds a computer, I need to find a good computer bag that holds my camera. I'm looking for the smallest bag that will simply hold a Macbook Air 11" and my RX1. Lean and mean.
Posted by: GH | Friday, 19 July 2013 at 09:45 PM
Still an old rucksack and a Vanguard shoulder bag in it (for added padding and weatherproofing). It just fits my OM-D EM-5 for taking the avarage 10 exposures I take each fototrip (2 to 4 hours worth of it). I know, I'm a lazy photographer.
Greats, Ed.
Posted by: Ed | Saturday, 20 July 2013 at 02:16 AM
My ideal bag would allow me to open it, take a lens off the camera and drop it in, and fix new lens on body, all with one hand.
Years ago I saw an attachment for a Leica. It was a flat bar that fixed to the underside of the camera via the tripod screw and in turn had two lens mounts on it allowing two lenses to be fixed to it.
Posted by: Paul MC cANN | Saturday, 20 July 2013 at 04:05 AM
Mike, I have a large black Billingham Hadley that will take a D800 and 24-70, as well as an extra lens, and a small black Billingham Hadley that I use for a single camera body and lens, or smaller DSLR and extra lens. Had them both for years, and they are still great.
Posted by: Andy | Saturday, 20 July 2013 at 05:05 AM
Mike, before searching endlessly for another camera bag, just check out some messenger bags and get separate inserts that fit (or get a friend to make some specifically for your OMD or NEX).
Alternatively get some neoprene bags for the cameras and lenses and just drop what you need in the bag.
They are cheap enough to get two or three sizes and you can move inserts from bag to bag. They are also useful when you don't have your camera.
Domke inserts fit quite well in a regular sized bag, and in fact some of the Billingham inserts fit as well.
But it's the ability to customise endlessly that makes them so much more useful.
I'm done with camera bags.
Posted by: Steve Jacob | Saturday, 20 July 2013 at 06:54 AM
For traveling by plane or car, a Thinthank Urban Disguise® 50 V2.0 hold the laptop, photo gear, and personal essentials in case of lost/delayed luggage.
For the street, an Artisan & Artist “OSKAR'S ONE DAY BAG” holds two leicas, three lenses, batteries, cards and a traveling guide nicely. The bag is folded nicely in my luggage when not in use. Light bag, well padded and expensive. The cost of being comfortable also means to leave the laptop at the hotel.
Posted by: pierre charbonnea | Saturday, 20 July 2013 at 11:16 AM
The main thing to remember, when it comes to working camera bags, is that zippers are bad.
Posted by: Dogman | Monday, 22 July 2013 at 07:28 AM