After the "Two Lens Kit" posts in May, someone asked me what lens I'd buy if I won the lottery.
The answer is that you don't need to win the lottery to buy a nice lens. I have plenty of perfectly good lenses already.
Some people say the lottery is a tax for people who suck at statistics, but I'm of the opinion that one lottery ticket is a great product at a great price. At only a buck, one ticket increases your chances of winning almost infinitely, because you make a binary switch—you go from having no chance to having a chance. The only really poor deal where the lottery is concerned is anything more than one ticket. I saw a calculation not long ago that if you invested $200 a week in lottery tickets, statistically your mean time before winning would be 640 years. I don't have that much money to spend. I also don't have that much time, personally.
And as for the "product," what you're really buying is not technically what they're selling. What you get for your buck is a few hours' worth of creative daydreaming.
Like most people, I long ago worked out what I'd do if I won. I wouldn't buy cars and houses and boats and planes. It would be way too much work to maintain a "rich and famous" lifestyle. I wouldn't be bothered.
What I'd do is be Roy Stryker.
I've wanted to be Roy Stryker almost since I was a kid. Stryker was an economist who was the head of the Historical Section of the Resettlement Administration of the U.S. government during the Great Depression. The RA eventually became the Farm Security Administration, and Stryker became head of the Historical Division. His real contribution was that he developed and managed the photography unit. He got to hire photographers like Dorothea Lange and Walker Evans and send them out to document conditions in the country.
That's what I'd do. I'd hire shooters, picture editors, and support techs. I'd train and direct the photographers, send them out into the field, and direct and manage the organization and editing of the work they did. The final presentation would be in the form of books, with the rights to the pictures eventually devolving back to the photographers.
I know exactly—I mean exactly—just how I'd do just about everything. It's what I daydream about every time I buy a lottery ticket, which I probably do four or five times a year, so I've imagined every little detail, the methods, the budget, even some of the shooters I'd try to hire. Hey, we all have our daydreams, right?
The FSA photographs, now in the Library of Congress, are one of the great projects in the history of photography. Many of them can be seen online, but the best way to see them is to go to the Prints and Photographs Division Reading Room in the Madison Building of the Library of Congress in Washington. It's at 101 Independence Avenue SE, room 339. There, in row upon row of old filing cabinets, you can see vintage prints drymounted to cardboard cards. You're allowed to open the cabinets and flip through the cards. I've been through all of them, a major odyssey that took multiple visits (although that was back when they were in the Jefferson Annex).
Realistically speaking, nothing like it will ever be done again. Unless I win the lottery, that is.
I just looked it up, and the Wisconsin Lottery is something called the "Powerball." The prize for tonight's drawing is $134 million dollars, which is actually far more than I'd need. I might buy a ticket. Just one. For a buck, it will let me be Roy Stryker for a few more hours. A dollar for such a pleasant daydream is a good deal, if you ask me.
Mike
P.S. I've written about this before, so if I repeat myself please pardon me if I repeat myself.
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State lotteries are a stupidity tax levied on the poor.
Bill Pearce
Posted by: Bill Pearce | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 10:43 AM
We've got The National Lottery here in the UK. I've always seen it as a tax on the poor, I'm not alone in that http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/5911581/National-Lottery-is-tax-on-the-poor.html
It's why don't do it so have no chance of winning it. I'll never be able to buy back the areas of my neighbourhood that have been gentrified and rent them below cost, or donate them to people who still have to live in substandard housing just a street away. Mind you, my wife buys the odd ticket. She might lend me the money
Posted by: Sean | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 10:48 AM
"Man who takes chance, has chance."
---Fortune cookie proverb I saved
Posted by: Chuck Albertson | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 10:52 AM
"State lotteries are a stupidity tax levied on the poor."
Really, yes. And dreadfully regressive. And a poignant commentary on the insufficiency of the educational system.
Mike
Posted by: Mike Johnston | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 10:58 AM
Would you punch holes in Walker Evans and Dorothea Lange negatives? Would you let Louis Hine literally starve to death because you wouldn't help him?
I hope you wouldn't be like Roy Striker.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 11:06 AM
Surely you want to be Albert Kahn rather than Stryker? Then you don't have to persuade any boss that the project is worthwhile :-)
Posted by: Max Sang | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 11:24 AM
I've certainly called the lottery a "stupidity tax". I got the people at the convenience store two jobs ago trained to give me a Powerball ticket when I said I was there to pay my stupidity tax. I've also described it as buying "complaining rights"; can't complain about not winning if you didn't have ticket!
I thought "Powerball" was one multi-state lottery; but they seem to be advertising a $220 million jackpot here in Minnesota.
I've actually had people say to me "what would you do if you won 10 million dollars anyway? It's so much you couldn't spend it!" Some people have remarkably small imaginations. 10 million doesn't even drastically change my lifestyle (no apartment in London and New York and Tokyo, no private jet, no Rolls Royce). Some of my big ideas you can't begin to touch with lottery money at all (private space program).
Mike, your idea is one of the best I've heard for enjoying and doing something special with a lottery win. It seems to actually take account of your skillset, to, which some don't (if I somehow had the billions to start the private space program, I wouldn't really know how; I'm not a CEO).
As for probabilities -- can anybody convincingly demonstrate that the odds of winning if you buy a ticket are significantly larger than the odds of somebody sending you a check that big by mistake? :-)
As to lenses, I'd buy a 400/2.8 and a 200/2, and wait for the new 135/2 to show up. And a second body, but whether that would be a second D700, or a D3s, or a D3x, or a D300s, I'm not sure.
Posted by: David Dyer-Bennet | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 11:32 AM
Mike - I've often had a similar daydream over the years; in the beginning it was to redo, in modern dress, Alfred Stieglitz's Camera Work (which someone in Rhode Island did, more or less, a few years ago). But that soon morphed into a project to gather a company of photographers and document America at the milleneum (which someone else did, more or less, about ten years ago). Now I would be content to just continue documenting my own peculiar vision of America for the rest of my life.
As some TOP readers may know, I am the author of Walker Evans' bibliography, which was published in 1995 (and goodness knows, now needs to be thoroughly updated). In my researches I came across, and eventually acquired, a copy of "American Economic Life," by Rexford Guy Tugwell, Thomas Munroe, and - you guessed it - Roy E. Stryker, published in 1925. It's a fascinating book, filled with documentary photos (small and poorly reproduced), and it served as both training and credentials for Stryker in getting his great position when Tugwell became a member of FDR's "Brains Trust." The book shows up at ABE occasionally, and I would recommend it as an interesting precursor to Stryker's FSA work.
And you are right, an occasional lottery ticket, or some variant thereof, is most useful in maintaining the optimism that sticking with a life-work in photography requires.
Posted by: Rodger Kingston | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 11:35 AM
What a wonderful idea. Mine's just travelling the world and taking pictures; usual boring stuff, eh ...
Sod the naysayers ranting about the poor who buy lottery tickets; I pay taxes to the same government too but when I do my tax return there's no box I can tick in the hope of getting it back, so I buy the ticket for a little more.
Posted by: Michael Martin Morgan | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 11:40 AM
I wrote similar things about lotteries several years ago: http://roberts-rants.blogspot.com/2005/07/lotteries.html
Posted by: Robert Roaldi | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 11:47 AM
Albert Khan did the same thing in pre-Great War Europe an Asia. He hired photographers to travel and gather still images on Autochrome and motion pictures for his Archive Of The World.
Pretty amazing stuff:
http://www.albertkahn.co.uk/
Posted by: photogdave | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 11:53 AM
"What you get for your buck is a few hours' worth of creative daydreaming."
This has often been my argument for playing the lottery. Really an excuse to waste an hour and daydream, as an adult, is like gold.
Posted by: Peter | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 11:54 AM
That's a wonderful dream.
It really would take something like a lottery jackpot to fund another FSA photography project. The original was run by Roy Stryker for a laudable but very explicitly political goal: to inform all Americans of the suffering of farm workers displaced by the 'Dust Bowl' collapse of agriculture. This was intended to undercut ferocious conservative resistance to government relief programs. You can just imagine the howls of outrage if the current administration tried something similar.
There's a fascinating new book (September 2009) on the subject of U.S. Government support for the arts during the Great Depression: "When Art Worked", by Roger G. Kennedy. It discusses the FSA photographic project at some length. It also looks into the philosophical and artistic issues involved when a democratically elected government—rather than the customary aristocratic patron—decides to fund and support the arts.
Posted by: Geoff Wittig | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 11:58 AM
With a lottery ticket you can dream (for a week here in Finland) about all the things you will do when you win the money. That is cheap dreaming for me although I know all about the statistics. Of course you can imagine the same things without the ticket but it's not the same.
Posted by: Markus | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 12:22 PM
You can buy a lottery ticket and wander around daydreaming about what you would do with all that money or you could save the dough and spend your time planning out a better way to make what you already have work for you.
BTW, I'm in the news business and I have done stories with a couple of lottery winners who took home prizes in the four to eight million range.
The money is nice but they also complained about everyone putting the arm on them and the way their windfall alienated them from old friends.
After five years one even tried to get his old job back. Apparently he was ill suited to the rigors of indolence.
I figure I won the lottery when Mrs. Plews said yes.
Posted by: Mike Plews | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 12:24 PM
I love your lottery dream, Mike. That would be some legacy to leave.
My lottery dream is not as honorable: Own less, travel endlessly, and make photographs while doing so.
Posted by: Cw. | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 12:34 PM
Mike, you've just presented an eloquent and superb reason for buying an occasional ticket.
A wonderful dream as well.
Posted by: Bron | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 12:44 PM
I've bought one lottery ticket in my life. The jackpot was about a zillion dollars. All my co-workers decided they would pool some money to buy several tickets, and if one ticket was the winner, everyone would split the winnings. I decided to get in on it. I knew the chances of winning were slim, but if it did happen, they would all quit their jobs, leaving me unemployed. ;)
Posted by: ce9999 | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 12:54 PM
if i won the lottery, i would start my own camera company, but being roy stryker doesn't sound too bad either.
Posted by: aizan | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 01:05 PM
Libertarians, like Rand Paul, love lotteries: they raise revenue, without taxation.
I'm sure you realize what I think of Rand Paul.
Posted by: misha | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 01:15 PM
"At only a buck, one ticket increases your chances of winning almost infinitely, because you make a binary switch—you go from having no chance to having a chance."
But, your expected winnings go from a respectable $0 to a relatively dismal -$0.9999999 (or thereabouts). Makes more sense to first daydream about buying a lottery ticket; only adds a moment to your daydream, and saves the buck.
Posted by: Tom Walton | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 01:27 PM
Me, I wish I could've been one of the shooters on that project. One of the great moments in photography--and history. Hanging out with those shooters would've been like jamming with Beethoven and Mozart, if you were a musician...
Posted by: Paul W. Luscher | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 01:33 PM
Yeah, but which lens?
Posted by: Richard | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 01:46 PM
Those playing the lottery have keep one thing in mind. You do not get the whole winnings. The government gets their share first in income taxes. Then what's left is either taken as a lump sum payout which is considerable less than the remaining amount after taxes or payments over a period of time. A dollar today will be worth much less 20 years from now. So when dreaming about the 135 million you have to cut back your expectations to less than half that amount. If a business advertised like the lottery does they would be prosecuted for false advertising.
Posted by: Mark Janness | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 01:46 PM
I'm of the opinion that one lottery ticket is a great product at a great price. At only a buck, one ticket increases your chances of winning almost infinitely, because you make a binary switch—you go from having no chance to having a chance.
Thanks for summarizing what I tell my rocket scientist friends for mocking me when I buy a ticket when we're out for drinks. For less than the price of their soda (I don't drink 'em, talk about a stupidity tax), I get to buy dream. Works for me. Or as the old joke goes, "Joe, help me out. Buy a ticket."
And for what it's worth, I don't hang out with the rocket scientists because they're stylishly clad - it's because I'm one too. I understand the maths. I usually only buy when the EV is positive, ignoring the chance of multiple winners.
Posted by: HD | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 02:17 PM
Very good point on the lottery tickets, Mike. I've been of the opinion that tickets were a tax to the uneducated (which, unfortunately, correllates quite well with poverty, in Germany as in the US). Your words haven't changed my view about that, but have opened another aspect of them, another perspective on what they could be to me. I might just buy the odd ticket. Most of the proceeds go to charitable causes anyway, so it's sort of a good deed as a bonus.
Please excuse my grammar tonight, I'm having a bad english day.
Posted by: Friedrich | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 02:20 PM
I can't say I dreamt of being Roy Stryker since my childhood, but I think that the idea of photographic maecenatum has entered my mind. Alas – I haven’t won the lottery yet, and I don’t buy tickets. I think a more practical way to do it is to create a place where people that have disposable income can meet and sponsor photographers with the talent and drive. With all the social network sites around, why not one for photography admirers to post and sponsor worthy artistic (not commercial) photographic endeavors?
Posted by: Nick C. Pastinica | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 02:25 PM
Mike, I'd like to see your numbers. I'm not so sure that $134 million is far more than you'd need.
Seriously, I'd like you to share your daydream's financials with us. Write out your 5-year business plan including taxes, interest earnings, salaries, etc.
For the record, I think it would be a wonderful way to spend lottery earnings. Myself? I always dreamed I'd be Bruce Wayne if I won the lottery :-)
Posted by: Miserere | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 02:25 PM
Mike, why don't you pitch your project to a rich philanthropist?
Posted by: Ben Rosengart | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 02:35 PM
Another wonderful story, thanks, Mike :)
Posted by: Peter Hovmand | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 02:42 PM
It may be a tax on stupidity, but someone usually wins it, as demonstrated by a lady I work with who won £1.4 million on the National Lottery a couple of weeks ago.
This has led to an awful lot of creative daydreaming around the office. The funny thing was that every single person already had a complete plan of what they'd do with the cash, even those who had never played.
Posted by: Peter Clarke | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 02:45 PM
"Man who takes chance, has chance."
between the sheets!!!
Posted by: Michel | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 02:52 PM
I daydream about the exact same thing.
Posted by: Ken | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 02:55 PM
Yes its true lotteries are a tax on the poor/stupid,
it's a nice dream though........
Posted by: Koert | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 02:57 PM
Ah, yes, a chance. A very very very small chance, something like 195.2 million to one chance - realistically the same as not playing at all, but then there's no dream.
Given those odds, it's really not much of a dream either, but one does have to play to have any chance, as you note.
I rationalize my extremely limited playing to using the following rule. If the amount is less than 195 million, I don't play. Once it gets above 195 million I throw away one dollar on each drawing if I happen to need gas until someone else wins. :)
Good Luck Roy!
Posted by: robert harshman | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 02:59 PM
If you won the lottery and became the next Roy Stryker, I'd be elbowing people in line to work for you!
I've thought for a while that we need more philanthropists and non-profits to fund documentary activities (particularly photography). The non-profit model sounds like a great way for good journalism to survive. If I had the money, I'd be Roy Stryker, too (actually, I'd hire someone to do his job so that I could just shoot).
Posted by: Dave St.Germain | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 03:10 PM
Mark,
That $134m is the payout. Subtract 1/3 for taxes and it's still $90m give or take. And the nice thing about my daydream is that it's scalable. There's no requirement for the number of shooters I could hire, the duration of time the project would last, the number of books that would result. I figure 3-4 million to do it adequately, double that to do it well. With this jackpot, I'd still have way too much.
Mike
Posted by: Mike Johnston | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 03:15 PM
Hmmm... sounds like you want to be Albert Khan?
cut and paste the following URL: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Kahn_(banker)
Posted by: ault | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 03:38 PM
Mike- It's this sort of post that makes you so readable and a cut above.
So repeat yourself- fine by me.
Posted by: Fred | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 04:10 PM
OK, if $134 million is far more than you'd need, how much would it take to be Roy Stryker in 2010?
Also, could I send you my resume now, just in case?
Posted by: Scott Paris | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 04:12 PM
David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
As for probabilities -- can anybody convincingly demonstrate that the odds of winning if you buy a ticket are significantly larger than the odds of somebody sending you a check that big by mistake? :-)
I know you were joking, David, but I actually think it's pretty easily shown. Just tabulate the number of Powerball winners over the past decade, say, then do some research and find out how many people were sent comparably large, cashable checks over the same period (properly only in the US, of course, if you're looking at the Powerball, although I suspect it wouldn't matter...). I would imagine that a "mistake" check that large would actually be a news story, so it shouldn't be too hard to find.
I'm going to hazard a guess here: I predict you'll find a whole lot more Powerball winners. If you do, Q.E.D. However, I'll leave it to you or someone who can't stand the uncertainty to do the preliminary leg work.... :-)
Posted by: Derek | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 05:51 PM
Don't want to shatter anybody's dream, but I suspect most lottery winners are cursed and end up worse than they were. There was a good English film based on a true story, Spend, spend, spend. I did some research, quite difficult since the Lottery organisers do not give any info on winners, and found out a lot of sad stories: Most people had been forced to leave their city, etc. just to avoid the pressure: people--relatives, friends, friends of friends-- asking for money, business proposals, fear of being attacked, etc. And if you give them the money, you lose it, but if you do not, you lose your friend and anyway you gotta stop one day...
Others lived their dreams (buying the business that was employing them was quite common) and, not being prepared for it, failed.
Others moved immediately to plush places, like Monaco, but what is there to enjoy when you do not speak the language, have no friends, etc.?
There have been a couple of very secretive winners: nobody knows who they are, they kept their ordinary life and did not reveal themselves. Clever.
In Spain we are addicted to Lottery. Everybody buys tickets at least for the Chistmas draw, though the prices are not big. We have National, Regional, the Euromillion (European), the Red Cross organises a very popular one (the big prize is 110 kilos of pure gold), and a weekly one that finances a charity for the blind, that has become in this way a major financial institution. All prizes are tax-free, but the state keeps half the gross.
I do not play, so I will most certainly never win. Still some relatives offer me tickets for the Christmas draw, a common practice also... But I can't think of what I would do with the money. When I try, the image of Jacob Holdt traveling trough the US taking pictures of the other half always comes to mind. But he did it penniless, hitchhiking, living off his subjects or taking menial jobs and with a half frame Olympus... no lottery ticket needed...
Posted by: JC | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 06:03 PM
I had no idea, Mike, that you had such a special interest in the subject, let alone having Stryker as your potential business model. You've inspired me to take a side trip on my next D.C. visit.
I consider two books, both out of print, essential on the FSA: 'Portrait of a Decade, Roy Stryker and the Development of Documentary Photography in the Thirties'; and 'A Vision Shared, A Classic Portrait of America and its People, 1935 -1943. The latter, especially, has many moving photographs in addition to some interesting biographical information.
I was fortunate to purchase these many years ago, and I wouldn't be surprised if both reside in your bookcase.
Posted by: Jeff | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 06:05 PM
"I was fortunate to purchase these many years ago, and I wouldn't be surprised if both reside in your bookcase."
Jeff,
They do indeed, alongside several other good books on the FSA, including "In This Proud Land" by Stryker and Nancy Wood, and the book Rodger mentioned earlier in this thread. I was fortunate that my book dealer in Washington D.C. in the 1980s was knowledgeable about FSA books.
Mike
Posted by: Mike Johnston | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 07:11 PM
Mike - What is preventing you from starting a small version of that business now, and then proceed to grow into your vision? Life is to short to only dream.
Posted by: Mark L | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 07:14 PM
With that money I would start an art foundation, buy an apartment complex and house starving students - the sexier and wilder the better -- and have an adjoining studio. The only rule would be my word is law and it follows the tastes of me and the people I appoint. The art foundation would sponsor artists, buy up billboard space, defend artists in court and the rest of it would go toward mind altering drugs.
It shouldn't need saying but I would need a comfortable living as permanent director.
Posted by: Keith Loh | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 07:19 PM
Keith,
Somehow that sounds like a utopia that could quickly turn dystopian. [g] We need a novelist here....
Mike
Posted by: Mike Johnston | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 07:21 PM
My favorite type of tax: voluntary. All taxes should be voluntary. If you feel like you're getting good value from the bureaucracy then keep paying, er playing.
Posted by: Walt | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 08:14 PM
Grand idea Mike. I do think it high time we hassle the government into re-documenting America. We call it Photocore and I am ready to start tonight!
Me, I wanted to be Bjorn Borg when I was little.
Posted by: charlie | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 08:44 PM
You take your $90mil, more or less, and make some photography books. Then wait 50 years to see if they became relevant. You've got more than one dream going on here.
bd
Posted by: Bob Dales | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 09:59 PM
I'm not really going to do it, Bob.
Mike
Posted by: Mike Johnston | Wednesday, 02 June 2010 at 10:02 PM
The point was made many posts back, that Stryker had an important job to do. Making displaced workers in the farm belt visible to counter the vociferous arguments of those who sought to preserve property and financial values by holding tight controls over spending and keeping the pain of unemployment high so that inflation would not return. That job is still here.
scott
Posted by: scott kirkpatrick | Thursday, 03 June 2010 at 12:00 AM
Well, one ticket per drawing is reasonable. Multiple tickets per drawing is a regressive tax on the math challenged.
That said, I have a CL and the 40mm Summicron-C. Sure, Leica has made better lenses, but why spend more until you find out you are Bill Gates' or Warren Buffet's love child...
Posted by: Al Patterson | Thursday, 03 June 2010 at 12:01 AM
Hi Mike, This is slightly off topic but if you won the lottery perhaps you would be interested in this item on Ebay 270280338499 the asking price took my breath away. Is it really that rare?
Michael
Posted by: Michael Ward | Thursday, 03 June 2010 at 12:56 AM
Buying a lottery ticket is good.My wife and I do occasionally on our way to have a coffee at our favourite coffee place.We sit
and exchange a few ideas on what we would do if we won.Then it's time to move with the shopping list for our weekly groceries.
I don't know if my wife is still dreaming but I am about a full frame SLR.She still won't let me buy one maybe if the winning ticket came up.Brian,South Australia.
Posted by: Brian Walker | Thursday, 03 June 2010 at 01:24 AM
For those of us who never saw the original wave of FSA books, there's a very substantial amount of material (like memos from Stryker to his photographers about the inadvisability of dressing like fashionable Easterners while photographing midwestern farmers) and the reproductions are excellent in "Folks Like Us," edited by Stu Cohen. It's published by David Godine, and I got it on Amazon a few months back, thanks to its "folks who bought what you are looking at also bought..." referral.
scott
Posted by: scott kirkpatrick | Thursday, 03 June 2010 at 01:31 AM
"All taxes should be voluntary."
I hope you're served well by your volunteer/private fireman, police and doctors via your voluntary/privatized roads, bridges and emergency equipment.
http://www.alternet.org/economy/136592/tax_day:_you_pay_your_taxes_--_why_don%27t_the_rich_pay_their_share/?page=2
Posted by: Stan B. | Thursday, 03 June 2010 at 02:03 AM
ditto the pentax 21mm lenscap, £35.00 + postage
Posted by: Phil Martin | Thursday, 03 June 2010 at 06:42 AM
The fact that you are able to manage such a great project, but need a lottery win first in order to realize it, also shows that there is something wrong here.
I mean, you are one, but how much potential is lying idle because of people not being able to realize it for the lack of financial means. Whereas others waste unimaginable amounts on unnecessary things or even worse.
Posted by: Andreas | Thursday, 03 June 2010 at 07:14 AM
If temporary hope is the reason people will buy a perfectly worthless lottery ticket (well, not perfectly worthless but very, very close) then here is a plan to raise revenue for the federal government.
Give everybody who pays taxes one lottery ticket for every dollar they pay in taxes. Then give the winner a billion dollars. Given the available evidence about state lottery ticket buying my guess is that taxpayers would rush to pay MORE taxes in the crushingly remote hope of becoming America's next billionaire.
Probably wouldn't get Warren Buffet to pony up any more lucre but I know guys down the street who would be looking for chump change in the sofa to send to Uncle Sam.
Posted by: Jim | Thursday, 03 June 2010 at 07:36 AM
I'm heading over to Duff & Dell's to buy my ticket.
Posted by: Shaun O'Boyle | Thursday, 03 June 2010 at 08:18 AM
Derek: Right you are! (That was the argument I had in mind, too. Still kind of like the joke, though; I use it to counter "you can't win if you don't play".)
Posted by: David Dyer-Bennet | Thursday, 03 June 2010 at 08:27 AM
Maybe you don't need to win the lottery... Look what these folks accomplished on kickstarter:
http://vanderbiltrepublic.org/
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/577582283/masters
Maybe not enough to do exactly what you're thinking, but an interesting documentary project nonetheless.
Dreaming is good, but better when it leads to action... And you know what? Through TOP, I'd be willing to bet that you could fulfill your documentary dream without ever buying a ticket. Your readers are some of the best photographers, printers, and editors in the world, many of whom document life either professionally or, more likely, in their free time. Think about it... I think you, of many people, are in a unique place to make something like this happen. Not exactly like the FSA... maybe even better.
Posted by: yemado | Thursday, 03 June 2010 at 09:20 AM
I know someone who won $94 million in the California lottery three years ago. Her mother told her that, if she were to buy a ticket, to buy two. "You double your odds with just one dollar." The second ticket was the winner.
Posted by: R. Edelman | Thursday, 03 June 2010 at 10:13 AM
Roy Stryker is the subject of my master's thesis. The documentary I did is available from films.com
http://ffh.films.com/id/14003/Strykers_America_Photographing_the_Great_Depression.htm
Stryker was the consummate bureaucrat. He knew how to work the system as well as he was great teacher and visionary.
I started a Facebook Fans page too.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Strykers-America-Photographing-the-Great-Depression/105369969506274
Please visit and add your comments
Thank you.
Larry Levin
When you go to the Library of Congress Prints and Photographs Division, you need to get a reader's card. It is an easy 10 minute registration done in the Madison Building.
Posted by: Larry Levin | Thursday, 03 June 2010 at 10:39 AM
Of the (several) countries I have lived in, ONLY the United States taxes lottery winnings.
To my certain knowledge, Canada, the United Kingdom, and Japan do not.
Probably the rest of Europe doesn't either, but I really don't know.
Interestingly, the US also has the highest per capita incarceration rate and still has the death penalty.
A pattern of “benevolent” government here??
Regardless, the lottery most certainly is a tax on stupidity – unless you win!!
Current "MAX" lottery here in Canada is CDN$50 million - tax free - draw this Friday - I HAVE a ticket - $5!!
Best,
Geoffrey
Note:
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States]
Posted by: Geoffrey V. Hughes | Thursday, 03 June 2010 at 09:39 PM
I also participate in the endlessly fun "what will I do if I win the lottery" game, except that I don't actually purchase tickets. My reasoning is that I don't see my chances of a lottery win as the binary switch you describe: statistically, not purchasing a ticket only makes it less likely that I would win. It could still happen. The odds of finding or being given a winning lottery ticket may be remote, but when we're talking about the odds of winning the lottery at all what's another degree or two of improbability?
Posted by: Jos | Thursday, 03 June 2010 at 11:44 PM
Jos,
I have to admit that sometimes I don't even check the winning numbers against the tickets I buy. I know the statistical probability....
However one time back in D.C. in the '80s I bought six bucks worth of tickets and didn't hit a SINGLE ONE of the winning numbers! I think I should have gotten some kind of prize for that, personally....
Mike
Posted by: Mike Johnston | Thursday, 03 June 2010 at 11:48 PM
I'm not sure how much Roy Stryker was involved but there is an interesting pair of documentary films produced by the Resettlement Authority/FSA: "The Plough That Broke the Plains" and "The River", directed by Pare Lorentz with music by Virgil Thompson. Paul Strand is credited BTW, but not Stryker.
The films are available on a Naxos DVD with newly recorded performances of the original score. See Naxos 2.110521.
Hey American friends. it's your history--we have our own--check it out.
Regards - Ross
Posted by: Ross Chambers | Friday, 04 June 2010 at 03:02 AM
I hope you win.
Posted by: kickstand | Friday, 04 June 2010 at 12:34 PM
You don't have to check the tickets if nobody wins; you can tell that from the jackpot going up the next day.
(There are various minor prizes, of course, that you would miss out on perhaps. I've won as much as $4 on a Powerball ticket.)
Posted by: David Dyer-Bennet | Friday, 04 June 2010 at 02:48 PM
Enjoyed the lottery musings and might just have to buy a ticket to justify a day or two of focused daydreaming.
Regarding the FSA collection.... Viewing the prints in the Prints room is the SECOND best way to view the works in the collection. The BEST way is to have the LOC make exhibition quality prints of your favorites (done for a song) and display them in your home whre you can enjoy them every day!
Posted by: dsr | Friday, 04 June 2010 at 10:27 PM
Hey Mike, you don't need to win the lottery to accomplish your dream... especially in this day and age. You already have the machine: your website.
Why not organize a 'Day in the Life' event for your readership. Pick a day (better yet, a week), pick a theme, and have everyone go out and shoot. We all put up pictures on Flickr, and you get to be the editor who produces a final portfolio from all of the submissions. Let those who are included submit a brief essay on their photos.
With enough photos, you could put together a nice book. Self-publish it with the POD folks, take half the proceeds and split the other half with the included photographers, and you've got a business.
Oh, and you can pay me 10% out of your percentage for the idea... :-)
Posted by: ObiJohn | Saturday, 05 June 2010 at 09:33 AM