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Monday, 03 October 2011

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We have a new (for us) oldies TV station called MeTV. They have a promo for Taxi where Latka (the late Andy Kaufman) says that they don't have instant replay in his country - "They just make the players do it over again"

Oh Mike... I'm from the south of México but I just love American Football. I visited Yankee Stadium last year (not anymore the House that Ruth Build) and I've been to the Azteca Stadium (the only one that has hosted two World Cup Finals), but to be at the Frozen Tundra... oh boy. The only thing close to it must be Old Trafford (aka The Theatre of Dreams) in Manchester. I'm full of envy.

Is it impolite to say your head looks tiny behind that giant Sony?

Others will no doubt point out that the final score was 49-23, not 49-17. Not that that makes a whole lot of difference.

I'm glad that you had a great time! My wife is a die-hard Packer's fan.

Uhhhh... Being an adamant Bronco fan and enjoyer of this blog, I can't help but notice a glaring typo. The score was 49-23, thank you. Although I understand why the last score went unnoticed, mediocrity has that effect. We'll take all the points we can get against the machine that is the Green Bay Packers.

No lens hood?

My experience is the opposite, having grown up and regularly going to Baltimore Colt games at the old Memorial Stadium. Johnny U and all that.

Many memorable games were against the old Packers...Bart Starr, Paul Hornung and that gang. I vividly remember, though I could hardly see through the fog, the day Hornung scored 5 TDs to crush my team. His yellow and green blur cut through the fog all game long. But, that memory was offset by others, including the day 9 of us got into the stadium with only 7 tickets (don't ask) and we got field box seats for the Colt/Packer game. Two and a half minutes left in the game with the Colts down 10-0, only to see Johnny U throw 2 TD passes to win 13-10, one after an onside kick.

Ironically, it was the Colt team in 1958, in the famous sudden death game against the New York Giants (1st championship overtime in history) that propelled football into the television era. Prior to that game, baseball ruled the airwaves. (And, as a side point, it was another Colt game, in the 1969 championship against the Namath's New York Jets, that prompted the AFL/NFL merger.)

Well, we in Baltimore know the story from here. The Colts left town, the stadium eventually got torn down, and many years later the Ravens began playing in a new stadium adjacent to the Orioles' Camden Yards.

I no longer attend games in person, since TV has ruined that experience. The games used to take over an hour less, with no pauses for commercials. No 'jumbo-trons,' no replays. Crazy loud fans still, but the old stadium acoustics still allowed us to hear the pads cracking. And, somehow Gino Marchetti still seemed larger than life to me. Ah, the good ol' days.

But, I did watch the Ravens' defense crush the Jets on national TV last night. :)

"The overarching lesson: one experience of any class of desirable thing is infinitely better than none."

But the real test is whether two is better than one.

Mark,
No, it would only be impolite to point out that I have a fat head. Which I actually kinda do. [g]

Mike

Thanks Daniel. Fixed now.

Mike

Speed,
I'd like to test that someday. I'll let you know.

Mike

Sam,
Sorry! I guess it was TWO Broncos touchdowns I missed.

Mike

Even though I was born and raised in Milwaukee, the only times I got to see the Packers were during the pre-season Shrine games in Milwaukee County Stadium in the late 1960s. I and some high school friends got to sell programs inside the gates as part of the fundraising for this annual benefit event. We sold the programs through the first half then got to watch the second half while standing at the top of the lower deck.

But this comment is about you, not me - sorry to digress. Great shots you took of the Packer fans! What I'm wondering is how plaid-shirted Fred from Oshkosh (where my wife was born, but again, I digress) and the guy standing in the background got their beers. Yes, I understand that beer is an integral part of the game day experience. And I also understand that beer is part of EVERY experience in Wisconsin. But they're drinking their beer in BOTTLES! Don't stadiums EVERYWHERE require that beers be poured into paper or plastic cups? You know, so that drunken rowdy fans can't launch glass missiles and injure their fellow drunken rowdy fans in the seats below? Or are Packer fans so civilized that they'd never initiate such mayhem? As a native Wisconsinite, I'd like to assume the latter.

Great shots of Lambeau, I don't remember ever seeing any before, just heard about it. Being a die-hard Charger fan I have to say it's spectacular compared to Quallcom. The flyover by the way is nothing compared to San Diego where Miramar NAS, where Top gun was filmed, is just 20 miles away...Very impressive with 5 to 7 planes and at a much lower ceiling. FYI - If you go to the game early you can, or could, always walk around that lower walkway at field level, great shots of players warming up. As long as everyone else is taking cheap shots let me say that I liked the one of Lambeaus exterior with you in the car mirror, too bad there wasn't a hot air baloon going by.

Did the gatekeepers give you any grief about bringing your camera inside the stadium? I have no experience with this personally, but I've had friends tell me unhappy stories about their efforts to bring their cameras with them into Diamondbacks and Cardinals games here in Phoenix.

Yeah, well, I didn't think it was such a wonderful afternoon there.

--Marc (Boulder, CO)

"Did the gatekeepers give you any grief about bringing your camera inside the stadium?"

No, but I checked beforehand. Jack says the prohibition is against lenses longer than 12 inches, although whether that's to discourage competition with the official photographers or just to avoid people being a nuisance in the stands with big clunky lenses I don't know.

Mike

Regarding beer bottles in the stadium. Mikes seats appear to have been what is referred to as "Club Level Seats". Always the ones right below the private boxes. The assumption being that that "class" of person won't launch projectiles at a public event. I assume no stadium would allow Raider fans into Club level. Certain priveleges apply there and waitress service with beer in bottles is one of them. People in the lower sections generally need to wait in line and get beer in plastic cups.

Jack says the prohibition is against lenses longer than 12 inches

See Mike, that's where an Olympus with the old-time 50-200 is heaven-sent. :) (About 6" collapsed.)

Perfect weather too! I was directly across the Fox River from you doing yard work in my backyard.

"Jack says the prohibition is against lenses longer than 12 inches..."

Then Green Bay's fans are luckier than most! I just checked the rules for the Arizona Cardinals and they are indeed more restrictive:

The following items are not permitted inside the stadium: Video cameras, mono/tripods and professional cameras with zoom lenses greater than 200mm or larger than eight inches in length.

I remember the first time i got to go to Lambeau, back when the Pack was terrible and the stadium was yet to have sky boxes. I remember how neat it was to run to the top row and be able to look out of the stadium. I don't believe that is possible anymore.

Mike,

for a while I did a job in the UK's Land (i.e. Army) Command HQ which required me to spend a couple of hours a week in coordinating requests for military shows at civilian events, in addition to the proper job. Inundated, and most unsatisfied.

But I'm left wondering, are these flyovers part of every major game, and more to the point, as Wisconsin is a long way from both coasts, did those F/A 18s make a special trip for this occasion? Unless you've got a local Navy or Marine Corps reserve base, they've burned a lot of fuel to get there.

Still, it is one aspect of Americana I fully support. I wish the UK supported our forces as much as you do in the USA.

I normally don't watch much football, but I did watch the game yesterday on the off chance that you would be in one of the shots of the fans. I was looking for the photographer with smashed fingers. It seems that the TV cameras don't tilt upward far enough to have shown you. :-)

Jack says the prohibition is against lenses longer than 12 inches...

I've got a lens that's 12 inches long, but I don't use it as a rule.

"If you have to be in the stands, cover the stands." Absolutely. From row 56, even the very best field shot is pretty pointless and static. But there's still a whole world around you, one that the photographers on the field can't catch. And there's all the stuff around the game and around the stadium, pre- and post-game. Some of my favorite shots ever, I took on campus before and after the games.

"I don't believe that is possible anymore."

K.,
Looks like it might still be possible at the south end of the stadium, but not for long: they'll soon build more seats down there. The new ones will be open (i.e., not skyboxes) but tiered, so you won't be able to run up them--you'll have to get to the top tier from inside.

Mike

Ha! James B, I was wondering the same thing. Where did those Hornets come from?

Mike, you remind me of the only live football experience of my life (so far) -- U of M vs Michigan State, at U of M. It was 15+ years ago and it was quite memorable.

"that "too local" phenomenon"

I worked in London for a little over a year. The only time I ever did the tourist thing was the weekend my parents and brother visited for my 21st birthday.

And yes, live football is hard to follow, at least for this non-native. High school football is big here, we lived across the street from the local HS and my youngest stepdaughter was in marching band, so I went to a couple of games. I was generally happy if I could figure out to within a 20 yard radius of where the ball was at any moment. Very different to watching it on TV.

Hence the VAST superiority of the m4/3 system over the Sony; put the 20mm pancake on a Panny GF1 and no guard would look at it twice; stick the 100-300 (200-600 equiv) in your pocket (it's only five inches long, the guard would probably just think you were happy to be at the stadium) and you're all set to go. Crowd photography with the pancake, game photography with the stabilized 600.

JC

Nice pictures Mike, great job.

MIke,

I like the flyover. Even though you said you cannot rep. truely the atmosphere, I can sort of feel it and even the wave.

You should do more of this kind of story.

Good works!

Dennis

The last packer game I attended, I had left my SD card in the computer at home after downloading! ha,ha
I loved the comments about how taking pictures at an event, changes the experience. I find this true of sporting events, weddings, fireworks, etc. We could start another thread. Sometimes now when I really want to enjoy an event, and remember the event, I refuse to take any pictures!
At my last game, those beer bottles are plastic. They sure look like glass.
I believe the jets come out of a'reserve' base, in WI. So they are not the latest and greatest planes. But you'll never forget the feeling and the sound when they are above your head! USA..USA..USA

Looks like you had a blast with your a900. The viewfinder alone is quite a treat.

"...visited Yankee Stadium last year (not anymore the House that Ruth Build)"
- It's now The House That Greed Built.

"But, I did watch the Ravens' defense crush the Jets on national TV last night. :)"
- So did I. :(

Waiting to catch a flight the other night at SeaTac, I overheard a conversation among some Scottish passengers who had attended the Seahawks game the day before---they were in hysterics about how a game with 60 minutes on the clock took 3 hours to play.

Hi, been reading Your blog for a long time. This is my first comment. Not related to photography, though.

I don't really understand what a military aircraft flying over has to do with a sporting event. Seems like war propaganda to me. I would hate paying good money for tickets, and than being forced to worship the military. I don't even like the anthems at a start of a game. Does the government pay for this advertising like other corporate sponsors?

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