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Monday, 20 December 2010

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I'd like to point out that it happens to be the Summer Solstice for half of the whole world! ;-)

Although it's summer here we have had rain and clouds all week long and the forecast isn't much better.
We might be able to see something tonight...

I did take some pictures of the last lunar eclipse. It was quite fun.

Phil,
Sorry to neglect you...but I'm not sure you can quite say "half" when 90% of the land mass and 90% of the population are in the northern hemisphere...if I'm remembering that number right?

But speaking of your area of the world (I'm assuming you're in Oz or NZ?), I went to a Christmas party yesterday at a house on the north side of Milwaukee where the next-door neighbors AND the across-the-street neighbors were BOTH from New Zealand--and neither were either related or had known each other prior to being neighbors. Frankly I think it would be quite a coincidence to find two sets of New Mexicans in such close proximity on Milwaukee's north side, never mind two families of Kiwis.

All very nice people, too.

Mike

"Frankly I think it would be quite a coincidence to find two sets of New Mexicans in such close proximity on Milwaukee's north side, never mind two families of Kiwis."

I understand why Wisconsonites would want to move to New Mexico, but, e, I dunno why a New Mexican would want to move to Wisconsin.

Dave in Pecos

Before and after the eclipse you can photograph the fullest Moon you'll ever see. The moon can be significantly north or south of the ecliptic even when its directly opposite the Sun, so there's often a tiny phase deficit. Not so tonight.

How dark will the Moon be? The 1963 eclipse was famous for not only being very cold but one of the darkest in recent history. Seasoned observers literally could not find the Moon without optical aid. We don't know if this one will be that dark but we're pretty sure of the temperature! As we speak my scope is on the back deck getting acclimated to the cold. Good thing I don't deform with temperature like optical glass.

Clear skies!

If it's summer in the Southern Hemisphere, how come it snowed over the weekend in the Snowy Mountains? That's like having flood water running through the Los Angeles River. Oh, wait...

A tip for lunar exposures from The Nikon School (circa 1975): "It's always high noon on the moon", so the Sunny Sixteen Rule applies: f/16 and 1/ISO second exposure for a properly exposed lunar surface.

Mike,

Seeing that the Solstices are an astronomical event I think it correct to consider phenomena from the point of view of Earth as a whole planet - after all it matters not whether there is anyone on the surface aiming their cameras at the moon or not from that perspective!

Of course the "proper" way to look at things is obviously:
http://www.odt.org/Pictures/sideb.jpg :-)

Based in Sydney... which is why I can say what are the odds indeed for your friends to have two sets of Kiwis so close. Talk about bad luck! ;-)

Dear Preston,

That rule doesn't work.

First off, the moon is about half a stop darker than the ISO exposure aim point (13% equivalent reflectance), so that would make it the "Sunny 13" rule. But that would give you a moon rendered as middle grey, which would look most unnatural to most people.

Furthermore, the surface reflectance varies considerably with phase. During the full moon, there's a coherent backscatter that boosts the brightness by nearly a stop, but that disappears only a few days either side of full. The brightness then drops off rapidly with phase, not only due to the incident angle of the sunlight becoming shallower, but the increasing predominance of shadowing on the surface.

IOW, it's a rule of thumb that starts off leaving photos mildly underexposed under the best of conditions, and it produces serious underexposure most of the time.

pax / Ctein

Plus, as a practical matter, Sunny 16 is a push with most B&W films, for technical reasons far too involved to go into here. With a K2 filter, I always preferred the Sunny 8 1/2 rule. [g]

And doesn't the exposure of the moon also vary with its height above the horizon? I.e., how much atmosphere the light has to travel through?

Mike

What 'atmosphere' would that be Mike?

When I looked out of the window this morning I had no doubts about the exposure. The sky was a perfectly even mid grey.

Dennis,
That would be earth's atmosphere (what else?), which is getting rather goopy these days. At low angles the light from the moon must struggle through rather more of it to reach you than when the moon is high overhead.

Mike

Welcome to the longest night of the year and of course the Lunar Eclipse. I am somehow hesitant to share this, as I don't think it's my best, but my longest lens (until in a couple days :-) ) is the -150mm zoom (on the E-3, so 300mm for you 35mm users). But we use what we have. I hope you enjoy them.

http://www.5pmlight.com/PICS/LE2010/

Added: I just have to say, I was watching the slideshow to make sure it's working right, and I was also playing the music here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry_WACFd8Ds

and it works well together!

Pass forward to the middle where the music starts. Amazing singing and amazing song!

The eclipse happened here just before and during dawn so exposure was constantly changing. We also had snow during the night and the temperature had dropped to -13.5C when i was going out to setup, thats pretty extreme for here, anyway I got this one just after full totality, the lights lower down are brave folks heading to work on the snow covered roads.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cilldara/5279875848/

My wife dragged me from a deep sleep around 3:45 this morning to see the eclipse. Where did all those damn clouds come from? Our trusty local weatherman didn't seem to mention them in his earlier evening forecast. The clouds broke twice so we did manage to see it, but all in all a cold experiment resulting in sleep deprivation.

Well, "sunny 16" is a rule of thumb, not a law of nature. Coming close enough to nail it on the next try is good enough for digital :-) .

The fact that we've been systematically depicting the moon as much lighter-colored than it really is is just one of those things, I guess. It's too late to change now (especially when other subjects are also in the frame).

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