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Saturday, 05 December 2009

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Good to know, Mike.

How about B&H? Does the "wish list" carry over?

Mike:

What if:

1. I go to Amazon via the TOP link
2. Look at an item and put it in my wish list
3. Then, at some later and better funded date (all my better funded dates are later...) I go to Amazon via TOP and retrieve the item from my wish list and buy?

This is more like the usual pattern for me.

Steve

hmm, did i do that? i just ordered 'south east' by mark steinmetz.

Because previous shopping cart items don't count, it makes me wonder about Wish List items.

Let's say that I use your link to Amazon where I add an item into my Wish List. In a subsequent visit to Amazon, (assume that I use your link again) I add the Wish List items to my cart and checkout.

Would this work?

Mike, Sorry to hear about this. Does this apply to B&H? Will make a purchase this evening and will take everything out of cart and reenter to make sure. Thanks for the heads-up. Hope your income jumps up now that
we know.

Marcus

Mike,

do you mean venal? (corrupt). Governments yes, but administrative concerns?

"How about B&H? Does the "wish list" carry over?"

I'm going to have to find out....

Mike

"What if: 1. I go to Amazon via the TOP link 2. Look at an item and put it in my wish list 3. Then, at some later and better funded date (all my better funded dates are later...) I go to Amazon via TOP and retrieve the item from my wish list and buy? This is more like the usual pattern for me."

No. We *never* get credit for anything already in your cart. Just the things you place in your cart and buy during the same linked visit.

Mike

"Let's say that I use your link to Amazon where I add an item into my Wish List. In a subsequent visit to Amazon, (assume that I use your link again) I add the Wish List items to my cart and checkout. Would this work?"

Again, I think I'd better ask specifically, rather than make assumptions. I'll let you know.

Mike

Thanks!

Now we know if we want to give you credit, we need to buy at that session, or remove everything and start again...

"do you mean venal? (corrupt)."

Rob,
I meant in the sense of greedy. Ironic in any case, I assure you!

Mike

I'm not clear. If I pick something through your Amazon link, wishlist it, and then buy it later, do you get credit, or not?

Carl

What if I put them in the cart and then remove them from the cart, come here, go there, add them again and purchase?

Carl,
I'll ask, and put the info on the links page.

Mike

"What if I put them in the cart and then remove them from the cart, come here, go there, add them again and purchase?"

Tom,
We'd get credit for that. I'm 99% sure.

That's asking an awful lot of people, though....

Mike

I'm sorry to hear this, because I made a purchase recently through TOP and already had the items in my cart. I'll definitely do it the right way in the future.

Joel

> That's asking an awful lot of people, though....

I've done it a couple of times, for the record. :)

Mike,

Is it the same with the shopping list? Even if I go to the product page from the shopping list, and add what I want to buy to the cart from the product page? What if I put the product straight from the shopping list into the cart?

I've probably contributed to TOP much less than what I thought. :-(

Mike

They could certainly be a bit more forthcoming about the referer id, confirming it at checkout. I wasn't sure myself when I bought a DA15 lens via Amazon.com a while ago so I deleted and started over with the affiliate link a few times. Hope it came through for you.

This is sad news, Mike. I remember asking you this very question some time ago. I always add items to my cart over long time periods, then come back when finances permit it, and delete those items that were frivolous additions. Those that I can justify, get bought through your link...except they were already in my cart.

I'm afraid you've received no credit from me in the last few years, which makes me very sad.

Thanks for letting us know, Mike. I will bear it in mind from now on.

The shopping cart is so useful that it seems really quite sneaky and wrong of Amazon to ignore the referral fee for items already in a buyer's cart when those things only got there because of a recommendation from a site like this one.

I've been removing and replacing at checkout time but not because I knew what you've just told us—it's just that I could never remember whether I placed it there when using your Amazon bookmark/link or not. Almost every site seems to point to Amazon these days, sometimes without warning, and the last referrer wins, I assume, when we begin to buy.

Really, this should be very clear and upfront. Each item in your basket should have a small indicator that tells you who the commission fee goes to. They could use a site's favicon as an indicator. It would be fairer all round.

"I'm afraid you've received no credit from me in the last few years, which makes me very sad."

Well, me too, Miserere, but it's the thought that counts!

Mike

P.S. It *was* my own fault.

Urgh, I suspected as much because a couple of times I noticed your referrer-code was missing in the address bar. But I did do the going-back-and-adding-again-thing as that inevitably happened when buying more expensive items that I wouldn't just buy on impulse (meaning: they spent some time on the wishlist or in the cart first), and I wanted to be sure you would benefit from it.
At least I now know that was the right way to go about it, and will keep doing it in the future. But I do think that's a serious problem Amazon is willfully ignoring – their webpage is optimized to remember every little move I make when I'm on there, which helps maximizing their profit. So remembering who sent me there for a certain object should be a simple thing to implement, and I'm inclined to think their not doing it is happening on purpose, to avoid actually paying the linked partners (esp. on the pricier stuff), but without anyone noticing it too much.

Mike,
I have spent a considerable sum with Amazon and, as my buying habits do not include leaving items in a cart, you should get it all.

I have always assumed that what you described as the right method was the way to do it. I suppose it comes from the fact that I build web sites for a living. Never realized that you were recommending something else. Had I realized it I would have said something. I suppose next time you won't mind if I send you a note: "Hey there, you are losing money!"

Sorry to hear of your loss, but rest assured that the little I bought through these links was always credited to you.

-Alberto

Mike, these are fairly depressing comments, but on the flipside you can probably look forward to a bump in income. The glass half-full and all that.

Why would you leave things in your cart when you can keep a wish list? Seems much more simple to do it this way.

Build your wish list and, when you want to make a purchase, go to Amazon via the TOP link here, fill your cart from the wish list and check out.

It might also be worth checking whether if we link to a specific item from here, and then buy several things, do you get the credit for them all? I have done this several times...

Tom

Well, better late than never, they say. At least you caught it during the holiday shopping season.

Another question... I always buy using the "one click" method on Amazon. I've done this from your site.

Do you get credit for this?

"if we link to a specific item from here, and then buy several things, do you get the credit for them all?"

Tom,
Yes, I do. In fact sometimes I scan the lists just to see some of the things people are buying--and it really runs the gamut. Everything from a 3/4 size guitar to a halter top, hand cream to a charcoal grill.

Mike

So...once again, just to clarify. My wish list is treated the same as the cart?

Mike, I'm planning on getting sum stuff soon. If I tell you what I'm getting in my order, maybe we can follow the order through to the end. I could:

1. Link directly from here and put in my cart
2. Move something that was in the wishlist (from a previously removed item from the cart) into the cart

Eli

Thanks for the clarification on Amazon, and I'll be waiting for the info on B&H. Living in New York state (for billing purposes,) I sometimes avoid B&H because of the NYS tax rate. Plus, I like Amazon's site better in most respects. However, Amazon has been charging tax for some time now, so that's a wash.

I find this practice from Amazon somewhat disturbing IF it applies to the following scenario:

I always go to Amazon via TOP in that the URL for my favourites link includes the TOP referral code, i.e., it is http://www.amazon.com/?tag=theonlinephot-20 So if I have something in my shopping list from a previous visit using that URL with the referral tag, I would expect that when I check out.

To make it session-based is ludicrous and borders on deceptive, in my opinion. So, I will either start buying via B&H (hoping they do not have the same policy,) or modify my Amazon purchase methods when I really need something B&H doesn't carry, or, simply send some PayPal funds directly, which I think is probably the best option anyway.

The devil is in the details! Not just in this case, either.

Mike, given the time of year that's in it, I'm off to Amazon to buy a bunch of stuff. Since you haven't yet confirmed whether stuff from the wish list gets credited to you, I'll search and add specifically. Can you maybe clarify this, update the "Links" page for future reference and maybe post once again with the definitive situation?

John

John,
I shall. I haven't gotten an answer back on this yet.

And thanks.

Mike

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